Steeltown Dre Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) Here is Lang's apology to his clients: The Worst NFL Playoff Weekend Of My Career A note to my clients: As tough a weekend as I have ever had in the NFL playoffs. I have done this for quite sometime and I can honestly say this is about as bad as it's ever been. I can honestly say I am embarrassed to call myself a handicapper after my weekend performance. No excuses whatsoever, I flat out didn't get it done. End of story. I will stand here and face the music of insults and death threats that my customer service team are dealing with at a record level right now. Bottom line is this past weekend continued my struggles in the NFL this year as it has been one of my worst ever. No excuses. Just stating the obvious. I know a lot of you will never buy another pick from me the rest of your life and quite frankly, I can't blame you. However, as bad as Sunday was, I have to move forward with anyone who is moving forward with me. If that means just 1 customer still placing their faith in me, that is one customer I will work harder than I ever have to get back on track this coming week. As bad as my NFL season has been is as good as my College football season has been and closing out that season with the National Championship winner will be just what the doctored ordered. To those going forward with me on Monday, I appreciate the vote of confidence more than you will ever know and I will do my best, my absolute very best not to let you down. The uphill climb back to the top of the mountain starts Monday. Edited January 8, 2007 by Steeltown Dre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 The truth is if these handicappers really thought they new it all why wouldn't they just bet the game. Instead they get to bet the game with your money. If they lose no $$ out of their pocket in fact tehy make money and if they win they make money plus they are considered a genius. The absolute best ads I like are the ones that say we guarantee our picks. If we don't win we'll give you back your money plus 15%. Wow isn't that nice. What that really means is they get to bet $15 to win a $100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeltown Dre Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share Posted January 8, 2007 The truth is if these handicappers really thought they new it all why wouldn't they just bet the game. Instead they get to bet the game with your money. If they lose no $$ out of their pocket in fact tehy make money and if they win they make money plus they are considered a genius. The absolute best ads I like are the ones that say we guarantee our picks. If we don't win we'll give you back your money plus 15%. Wow isn't that nice. What that really means is they get to bet $15 to win a $100. 2 of the types of subscriptions are either packages/subscriptions or individual game/night picks. The first one is usually not guaranteed. It is a year, or a season, or a month ... of plays. From that Dr. Bob article: Though he will not say how many subscribers he has, how much money he earns or whether he bets his own games, Mr. Stoll says he makes his living as a handicapper, not a bettor. By any measure, it's fair to say he makes a good living. If he has 2,000 subscribers paying an average of $500 each, his annual income would be $1 million. So these guys don't need to bet on the games. And as you can see, you don't even need to win to get subscribers. All you need is excellent marketing, a major spin campaign after your weekend losses (see the Lang spin campaign above) and maybe a few key games that you win to keep your clients happy. If Lang wins on his BCS Champ game, his clients will forget his losing NFL weekend. At least a good number will... The guaranteed picks could be out for tonight's BCS Champ game. They charge $50 to get their winning pick, and tell people if it loses, you get your $50 back. Well the players lets say are actually dropping a dime on the game, so if it loses, they are still down $950. And the tout just loses some profit, he is not in the hole. Of course, those who get that pick automatically from a package they purchased earlier have already paid for the pick and don't get the guarantee, so the tout is still making money on the game regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeltown Dre Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share Posted January 8, 2007 I'll start a new thread for next week and BCS game discussion if you want to discuss the matchup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 2 of the types of subscriptions are either packages/subscriptions or individual game/night picks. The first one is usually not guaranteed. It is a year, or a season, or a month ... of plays. From that Dr. Bob article: So these guys don't need to bet on the games. And as you can see, you don't even need to win to get subscribers. All you need is excellent marketing, a major spin campaign after your weekend losses (see the Lang spin campaign above) and maybe a few key games that you win to keep your clients happy. If Lang wins on his BCS Champ game, his clients will forget his losing NFL weekend. At least a good number will... The guaranteed picks could be out for tonight's BCS Champ game. They charge $50 to get their winning pick, and tell people if it loses, you get your $50 back. Well the players lets say are actually dropping a dime on the game, so if it loses, they are still down $950. And the tout just loses some profit, he is not in the hole. Of course, those who get that pick automatically from a package they purchased earlier have already paid for the pick and don't get the guarantee, so the tout is still making money on the game regardless. Would imagine most professional handicappers were once compulsive gamblers. I've argued this before but no one that I know has ever beaten the book long term. NO ONE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Have you ever thought these guys might have another service as well just under a different name. On one service they give Ohio State while on the other they give Florida. Incredible they win either way. And the one that wins gets the "This service is awesome reputation" just because a so called expert predicted the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 The absolute best ads I like are the ones that say we guarantee our picks. If we don't win we'll give you back your money plus 15%. Wow isn't that nice. What that really means is they get to bet $15 to win a $100. Explain that math to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Explain that math to me. Say a pick cost $100 for a sure fire winner and he guarantees money back plus 15%. Sounds like he's confident, doesn't it? So he says take OHio state which cost you $100 to get that advice and the buckeyes lose. So he gives you back $115. You made $15. He lost $15. Now if Ohio State wins he keeps your $100. So in short he is betting $15 to make $100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 No he doesn't, idiot. He gives me my $100 back, plus the $100 I won, minus the vig. Get a clue. We arn't talking bookies we are talking services that offer sure fire winners. Get with the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Say a pick cost $100 for a sure fire winner and he guarantees money back plus 15%. Sounds like he's confident, doesn't it? So he says take OHio state which cost you $100 to get that advice and the buckeyes lose. So he gives you back $115. You made $15. He lost $15. Now if Ohio State wins he keeps your $100. So in short he is betting $15 to make $100. Oh - so you're saying that I give someone $100 just for their advice? Then I have to put up another $100 (or whatever) for the actual bet? What kind of idiot would fall for that? I would never pay anyone for gambling advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Oh - so you're saying that I give someone $100 just for their advice? Then I have to put up another $100 (or whatever) for the actual bet? What kind of idiot would fall for that? I would never pay anyone for gambling advice. It's not always $100 sometimes it can be as low as say $10. But the perception is the more you pay for the pick the better it must be. If you are only betting $100 guess you couldn't afford it anyway. The guys more prone to this type of advertsing are those gamblers betting dimes on a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 It's not always $100 sometimes it can be as low as say $10. But the perception is the more you pay for the pick the better it must be. If you are only betting $100 guess you couldn't afford it anyway. The guys more prone to this type of advertsing are those gamblers betting dimes on a game. Wow, I can't believe people fall for that. I guess PT Barnum was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Wow, I can't believe people fall for that. I guess PT Barnum was right. Lots of people do the same thing by using high price stock brokers. Of course we both know that's investing not gambling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trots Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I am leaning towards Indy, Seattle, New England, and the Giants ATS. 3-0-1 thanks to a good line on SEA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispirons Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 i'm still pi ssed off at noodle arm pennington for throwing that pick 6. cost me my teaser and 150 bucks. Opraher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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