NAUgrad Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 ive said it a million times here, schools are afraid of failing kids so they just put them in special ed so that that don't count.... repeat don't count in the standardized testing... This is incorrect. Whenever there is a group of 40 students, then that automatically creates another group that is held accountable and is tested. So moving more and more children into "special ed" does not eliminate them from standardized testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hallelujah to that. It applies at the stage of application to college too. I'm not an educator but I'm highly educated. IMO, standardized testing is necessary to assess a diverse applicant pool who wants to move to the next level. A 4.0 out of BFE HS is probably not the same as a 4.0 out of Exeter. That is not to say that a brilliant genius cannot come out of BFE. However, ON AVERAGE, that 4.0 means less. So, you need the SAT or ACT to normalize for the level of high schol competition when applying to college. Same thing for graduate/professional school. Plus, for all of those who say that one's performance on the day of a big test is not important compared to performance over time, consider this. In most jobs, performance under pressure is necessary, at least occasionally. Don't we (meaning those who evaluate applicants) want to know whether someone can perform under pressure? Doesn't that predict success too? Who cares if some kid can consistently memorize a few facts when given all day. I want to hire a kid who can perform consistently but can do something in crunch time too. I find it strange that so many people on a pro football message board have difficulty understanding this concept. In the NFL, emphasis is placed on "performance" and "winning." People who just show up and go through the motions don't last in the league for very long. There's a bottom line and excuses aren't tolerated. The same will be expected of students once they earn their diplomas and enter the workforce. There's a pervasive mentality in many of the public schools (held by the students, the parents, AND the teachers) that if you simply show up, you're doing enough. That's not how it works. You can't do less than the bare minimum and expect the same as the other person who either meets or exceeds the guidelines. That applies to pretty much everything: grades, acceptance to college, teacher salaries, school funding, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I find it strange that so many people on a pro football message board have difficulty understanding this concept. In the NFL, emphasis is placed on "performance" and "winning." You mean it's not based on the wonderlic test results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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