Cyclones Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I wonder if the odds are the same for (say) KK vs K2 as they are for KK vs. K7 ... I wonder if has something to do with how many straights you can make. With a 2, you can only make 2 straights, A-5 and 2-6. With the 7,you can make 5 straights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I wonder if has something to do with how many straights you can make. With a 2, you can only make 2 straights, A-5 and 2-6. With the 7,you can make 5 straights. You know, that's got to be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclones Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 You know, that's got to be it. That's the only differentiator (is that a word?) I can think of. BC, Spain, Darin, Sheik, anyone? Is that the explanation for the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 (edited) I wonder if the odds are the same for (say) KK vs K2 as they are for KK vs. K7 ... Likely not since you can make 5 different straights with a 7 (7-8-9-10-J 6-7-8-9-10 etc) whereas you can only make 2 different straights with a 2 Edit: Beaten Edited June 15, 2007 by Tford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclones Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 (edited) Likely not since you can make 5 different straights with a 7 (7-8-9-10-J 6-7-8-9-10 etc) whereas you can only make 2 different straights with a 2 Edit: Beaten Oops. Edited June 15, 2007 by Cyclones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclones Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Likely not since you can make 5 different straights with a 7 (7-8-9-10-J 6-7-8-9-10 etc) whereas you can only make 2 different straights with a 2 Edit: Beaten Tford i love the Avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted June 15, 2007 Author Share Posted June 15, 2007 I wonder if has something to do with how many straights you can make. With a 2, you can only make 2 straights, A-5 and 2-6. With the 7,you can make 5 straights. Sorry, been in meetings all day, but, as noted already, this is it. A 7 can make many more straights than a 2 can, thus the slightly increased odds for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Tford i love the Avatar. Everybody wants to be friends with the grenade-jumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Definitely on the right track TFOrd, however, I believe the scenario I am about to present has our opponent with the best hand as of the turn, but gives us 100% of the deck to either win or tie. Opponent holds 7 of diamonds, 2 of hearts You hold the 5 and 6 of clubs The board is 3344, club and spade for each. I believe there is no card in the deck that gives the opponent a win. Any non-club ace through 8 gives a split pot. (21 outs) Any club Ace through 8 gives us a win. (7 outs) Any 2, 5, 6 or 7 gives us a win. (12 outs) Any 3 or 4 gives a split pot. (4 outs) So, 25 outs to tie, 19 outs to win. Our opponent has zero outs to win. Solution #2: Board = AAKK His Hand = 32 My Hand = 22 The case deuce give me the win, every other card in the deck chops the pot. Any others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Solution #2: Board = AAKK His Hand = 32 My Hand = 22 The case deuce give me the win, every other card in the deck chops the pot. Any others? Wouldn't this work if you have 3/2 and I have 2/2 and there are any two over-pairs on the board (like 4/4/7/7)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Wouldn't this work if you have 3/2 and I have 2/2 and there are any two over-pairs on the board (like 4/4/7/7)? Yes, but I'd consider them all the same solution in theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share Posted June 18, 2007 Solution #2: Board = AAKK His Hand = 32 My Hand = 22 The case deuce give me the win, every other card in the deck chops the pot. Any others? True. But, for expected value, my solution is higher due to the larger number of outs for a win compared to your solution, but this answer is definitely correct based on the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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