peepinmofo Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 As things get older and newer stuff comes along it is always hard to get the younger ones to accept how great something is. Some stuff that has always been considered #1 that younger people either have never seen, or will ever see because it is in black and white, or will most likely not be interested in because of not using the latest in stunts, special effects, etc.: The greatest movie ever made: Citizen Kane The greatest car chase ever filmed: Bullitt The greatest western ever made: Shane Just to name a few. It isn't your fault that you can't appreciate past films..... it's just the way it is. Not one thing there is a fact. It is all opinion. You cant say someone doesnt appreciate past films just because he doesnt like one car chase scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Not one thing there is a fact. It is all opinion. You cant say someone doesnt appreciate past films just because he doesnt like one car chase scene. Whatever you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Whatever you say. Thats more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 The car chase scene at the end of "Death Proof" was pretty good. Inspired by Bullitt I believe. Quentin Tarantino is cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 awesome wonder what the top end was on some of those stretches? I bet he's up in the 150mph range on a couple of them. whoever is behind the wheel can f'n drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I bet he's up in the 150mph range on a couple of them. whoever is behind the wheel can f'n drive. Sank youuu, Reeckie Bubbee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 The greatest movie ever made: Citizen Kane BOOOOR-ing. I know Bullitt is the correct answer, but for my money I'll take the Blues Brothers. It's got 2 classics: The one after they get away from the cop with SCMODS and on the way to the tax office. Both awesome. "This mall has everything!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxfactor Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 As things get older and newer stuff comes along it is always hard to get the younger ones to accept how great something is. Some stuff that has always been considered #1 that younger people either have never seen, or will ever see because it is in black and white, or will most likely not be interested in because of not using the latest in stunts, special effects, etc.: The greatest movie ever made: Citizen Kane The greatest car chase ever filmed: Bullitt The greatest western ever made: Shane Just to name a few. It isn't your fault that you can't appreciate past films..... it's just the way it is. You tell him sky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 You tell him sky! LOL What I said wasn't addressed to just the one person... it was supposed to be more of a general comment on why younger people don't necessarily appreciate old movies from what I have observed of my grandkids and their friends. It also wasn't about just one car chase. It was about old movies in general. But then what can I say.... 90% of what is said here is opinion and everyone can have one no matter how warped it may be. I think I am right in my observations though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 BOOOOR-ing. It's a shame you think Citizen Kane is boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 It's a shame you think Citizen Kane is boring. I have a loooong list of things I'm ashamed of. Not liking Citizen Kane is somewhere on page 24 of that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 I have a loooong list of things I'm ashamed of. Not liking Citizen Kane is somewhere on page 24 of that list. I didn't say you should be ashamed. I said that it is a shame. Some people think it is a shame that I don't like mushrooms...but I'm not ashamed of it. Sheeeesh but you people take everything as if it was an attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Not one thing there is a fact. It is all opinion. You cant say someone doesnt appreciate past films just because he doesnt like one car chase scene. Well, if you "don't like" the car chase scene from Bullitt, then NO you do not appreciate past films. If you don't think it's "the best" then that's your opinion, and one is exclusive from the other. In the "best of" debates, especially with film, you can look at one set of objective criteria and that is technical excellence. That is why Citizen Kane is revered along with Bullitt. Sheik thinks Kane is boring. Ok. He's probably bored with the story. I don't know what he does or does not know about the technical achievement of that film, but if he was bored he didn't realize he was being bored by a movie that was filled with first after first: deep focus, extreme camera angles, strong photographic compositions with sets built AROUND the camera instead of jamming a camera into a set and making due. That simply scratches the surface of the most technically groundbreaking film ever made: Citizen Kane. That is an indisputable fact. It brought together several developing elements in cinema and coalesced them into something you very much take for granted in the late 20th/early 21st century. Boring? Perhaps. The greatest technical achievement in film history? Absolutely. Bullitt, gets its ranking for much the same reason. I'm with Sheik, I much prefer the Blues Brothers car chase, but I can easily tell you why Bullitt is better: they'll never film a scene like that again. There's a mini doc floating around out there (it's on the DVD) about how they set the chase up for long stretches and placed cameras along the road. I'm not talking about building a car chase block by block either, their "takes" went for several blocks each, with McQueen doing a decent chunk of the driving itself. Even then, it took 3 weeks. This is one you really need to see on the big screen though, it's pacing and speed are out of this world in a theater. Knowing the story behind the setup helps with your enjoyment as well in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 I didn't say you should be ashamed. I said that it is a shame. IN-flammable means flammable?? What a country!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 In the "best of" debates, especially with film, you can look at one set of objective criteria and that is technical excellence. That is why Citizen Kane is revered along with Bullitt. Sheik thinks Kane is boring. Ok. He's probably bored with the story. I don't know what he does or does not know about the technical achievement of that film, but if he was bored he didn't realize he was being bored by a movie that was filled with first after first: deep focus, extreme camera angles, strong photographic compositions with sets built AROUND the camera instead of jamming a camera into a set and making due. That simply scratches the surface of the most technically groundbreaking film ever made: Citizen Kane. That is an indisputable fact. It brought together several developing elements in cinema and coalesced them into something you very much take for granted in the late 20th/early 21st century. Boring? Perhaps. The greatest technical achievement in film history? Absolutely. yeah, I've read most of that. I'm not of the philosophy that just because something or someone does something first that it's therefore the best. There are examples where this is the case, I just don't think Kane is one of them. If you're making a list called "Most Important Films of All Time" and not "Greatest" or "Best", then I'd have a hard time disagreeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy D. Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I watched Bullitt and the French guy in the Ferrari, and Bullitt is amazing, I need to get the movie and watch it for myself. But the guy driving the Ferrari was flying, some of the best driving I have ever seen. I may not be old enough to appreciate some of the cinematic "firsts" as were discussed earlier, but I do have a love of the older muscle cars, and I can totally see why Bullitt has been, and still is #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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