"Bruno" at the MTV Music Awards

[detlef]

C'mon people,STAGED! What are the odds of it being accidental, when he could have landed on any number of nobodies, in the aisle, between some chairs or people who would have gotten out of the way? Can I sell you a bridge in Manhattan?

 

If anything, it makes me like Mathers more since he's willing to bag on himself. His CD is already 35 on the year as well. Just a chance to show he does have humor...

I think that much has been established. However, I don't see this as being his "dick in a box" moment. In that case, you had some boy-bander involved in an elaborate skit poking fun at his genre and it really did have a great effect on Timberlake's popularity.

 

The problem with this stunt (not, mind you from the standpoint of believing it was a stunt, because it obviously was) is the fact that his part of the stunt was to have some dude land his balls on his chin, then get pissed and storm off. That's a pretty crappy role to have in the joke. While it takes some amount of humor to agree to do the stunt, that doesn't show because there was no humor from his standpoint in the acting out.

 

So, again, I don't see how this is effective from the standpoint you're implying.

[Azazello1313]

C'mon people,STAGED! What are the odds of it being accidental, when he could have landed on any number of nobodies, in the aisle, between some chairs or people who would have gotten out of the way? Can I sell you a bridge in Manhattan?

 

umm, I don't think anybody has suggested it wasn't "staged" at the very least by bruno and the production people. those are the only people you'd need to be involved to have him come down in one particular place, and I assume everybody's seats are pre-determined.

 

that said, I think it's pretty obvious eminem also knew it was happening. but like detlef said, I don't really see the upside for him. which still makes me think perhaps he was envisioning something slightly different than how it actually went down.

[Pope Flick]

umm, I don't think anybody has suggested it wasn't "staged" at the very least by bruno and the production people. those are the only people you'd need to be involved to have him come down in one particular place, and I assume everybody's seats are pre-determined.

 

that said, I think it's pretty obvious eminem also knew it was happening. but like detlef said, I don't really see the upside for him. which still makes me think perhaps he was envisioning something slightly different than how it actually went down.

 

 

I'll have to disagree - there are all types of insurance issues, not to mention potential lawsuits (public humiliation, damage to one's rep, etc) abound if both parties ahead of time hadn't signed off IN FULL on all details the stunt.

 

There's NO WAY any lawyer out here worth their snuff wouldn't have every loophole closed airtight before this proceeded. nope, just won't happen.

[Whiskey Pimp]

umm, I don't think anybody has suggested it wasn't "staged" at the very least by bruno and the production people. those are the only people you'd need to be involved to have him come down in one particular place, and I assume everybody's seats are pre-determined.

 

that said, I think it's pretty obvious eminem also knew it was happening. but like detlef said, I don't really see the upside for him. which still makes me think perhaps he was envisioning something slightly different than how it actually went down.

 

Are you serious? How about the fact that a bunch of people on a football site are talking about it? I'm sure there are blogs all over the place about it and he has a brand new cd to release. I'd say it benefits him quite a bit.

[Azazello1313]

How about the fact that a bunch of people on a football site are talking about it? I'm sure there are blogs all over the place about it and he has a brand new cd to release.

 

seriously? who is going to buy his CD because he had bare man-ass inches from his nose on live TV? I'm not, are you? his whole schtick is making fun of people, engaging in wars of words, and being mr. macho hip-hop guy. how do you ever call anyone out again when there are pictures of you like this out there?

Edited June 5, 2009 by Azazello1313

[detlef]

seriously? who is going to buy his CD because he had bare man-ass inches from his nose on live TV? I'm not, are you? his whole schtick is making fun of people, engaging in wars of words, and being mr. macho hip-hop guy. how do you ever call anyone out again when there are pictures of you like this out there?

Cue the face off music in 8-mile. Someone says you got teabagged by a dude wearing feathers, pretending to be German.... um, crickets?

[Whiskey Pimp]

seriously? who is going to buy his CD because he had bare man-ass inches from his nose on live TV? I'm not, are you? his whole schtick is making fun of people, engaging in wars of words, and being mr. macho hip-hop guy. how do you ever call anyone out again when there are pictures of you like this out there?

 

I'm not the MTV type of person but his name hasn't been out there for years and now it is. I'm suee he'll have a version of that scenario in one of his own videos in the next few months anyway. I don't think anyone that saw that and was planning on buying the cd is now saying they won't.

[Ziachild007]

I'm not the MTV type of person but his name hasn't been out there for years and now it is. I'm suee he'll have a version of that scenario in one of his own videos in the next few months anyway. I don't think anyone that saw that and was planning on buying the cd is now saying they won't.

 

Could also have to do with the fact that his last album came out in 2005.

[Whiskey Pimp]

Could also have to do with the fact that his last album came out in 2005.

 

Yeah I know, so new album coming out so need to get the name back out there. Hello MTV movie awards skit. I just don't see how people think this would harm him in any way possible.

[godtomsatan]

seriously? who is going to buy his CD because he had bare man-ass inches from his nose on live TV? I'm not, are you?

 

You're not the target demographic.

[detlef]

I'm not the MTV type of person but his name hasn't been out there for years and now it is. I'm suee he'll have a version of that scenario in one of his own videos in the next few months anyway. I don't think anyone that saw that and was planning on buying the cd is now saying they won't.

I've always been under the impression that most hype campaigns had higher goals than avoiding losing customers they already had.

[Ziachild007]

Yeah I know, so new album coming out so need to get the name back out there. Hello MTV movie awards skit. I just don't see how people think this would harm him in any way possible.

 

He has had three singles come out this year and all have done pretty well so far. His new album (Relapse) is pretty anticipated by hip-hop fans, so I would guess that he didn't need the publicity too much.

 

But I do agree that it will do no harm to his career. Fans like him because he is a good MC and a great lyricist (as far as rap goes, that is).

[H8tank]

I loved this borat hoax the best.

 

Sacha Baron Cohen became famous for his rendition of the character "Borat", filming a fake documentary on "behalf" of the government of Kazakhstan. During the creation of the film, Cohen fooled many, including former Congressman Bob Barr and a local news crew.

 

But his latest stunt goes well beyond that.

 

"Basically, what I wanted to do was create a practical joke so large and so profound that it wouldn't even seen funny." Cohen told us from his London loft, "It was around 2004 and I remember that lots of American folks were rambling on about that year's Presidential election, so I figured that I could create just a romping good laugh by faking my own election.

 

"So I went down to the studio and began to draw up a general idea of how we could create a 'fake' President of the United States. We picked an actor named James Stephenson and sent him over to the States to act in a role as 'Barack Obama.'

 

"The character Obama was a simple state senator from the most corrupt city in the country. That alone would cause a lot of alarm bells. And his record was hardly anything-- In fact, he had more legislation aimed at closing domestic industry and outsourcing jobs than anyone in the Illinois state senate. That would create red flags too.

 

"And we casted a bitch wife-- I mean a total, over-the-top full PMSing rage-oid. I mean, people were turned off by Hillary Clinton cause she wanted universal health care in 1993. Well, this broad-- excuse me-- young lady, was casted to say that she wasn't even proud of her country. We figured that even some of the left-wing types would pause and think about it.

 

"And we made sure that Stephenson (Obama) would go to the most extreme, radical church this side of Jonestown. And the preacher he went to, we didn't even script. Wright was perfect. Between accusing the government of creating and spreading AIDS and celebrating the 9/11 attacks, this would be a great way to turn people off. I mean, in the script Wright married Barack and Michelle and baptized their children, all while calling for a separation of races.

 

"But that wasn't enough. People just adored the guy still. We couldn't figure it out. We made sure that he never spoke in-depth about geopolitics, and whenever he did, he would just confuse Iran with a Flock of Seagulls song.

 

"And his upbringing was a treat. His mother was a drugged-out hippie who posed nude for pictures and his father was a deadbeat. This wouldn't keep people from voting for him, but it should make them stop and think of the values he was instilled with.

 

"And even in his own autobiography he clearly states that he tried to hang out with the Marxists and radicals. He followed them around and listened to their rants against American society.

 

"And the biggest kicker was that he launched his political career at the house of a wanted terrorist, who killed American civilians and bombed landmarks. Not only did he go to his house, but knew him personally as a Marxist agitator and murderer.

 

"But when we entered his name into the Democratic Party primaries, everyone loved the idea that he opposed the Iraq war, even though he publicly stated that the people there spoke "Iraqese." He couldn't speak without prepared speeches, but they loved that his meticulously-prepped lines made him seem authentic.

 

"And we got him on every TV show and with every celebrity possible, to make it seem like he had no idea how politics worked. But it just seemed to make him more popular.

 

"But somehow, with all of his shortcomings and parts of his life that just didn't make sense, he still beat Hillary Clinton. Why? Because he was deemed 'cool.' Not competent, but the type of guy who could burp the entire alphabet.

 

"So who did the Democrats vote for? A religious zealot who knew nothing about foreign policy and was a former cokehead. Gee, isn't that what Jon Stewart tried to say good ol' Georgie was for eight years? And they wind up electing the guy. That one's the kicker.

 

"And now he's actually in office. I've got to admit, we're running out of material to give the guy. He's just flailing up there. If you have any suggestions, send me an email."