Easy n Dirty Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Press conference going on right now. Please bring us Bill Cowher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Seems like nice guy but he had to go...now more than ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 To me the guy was trying to hard to be "the next Bill Belichick"; ... somewhat quiet, reserved, and private with "check me out, I'm a genius" attitude. I doubt many Jet fans will miss him much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 He was not a good HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Was he really a bad coach though? I mean, they lost a lot of games due to Favre's ability to turn the ball over more than anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 payback is a bitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 payback is a bitch Can you explain this to me? How is his getting fired from the head coach position in NY a payback to anything related to the Pats? I must be missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspot Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Was he really a bad coach though? I mean, they lost a lot of games due to Favre's ability to turn the ball over more than anyone else. Yes, he has a headset on and watched as the Jets would consistently average 5-10YPC and reel off 12 straight pass plays with a number of 3 and outs. Watching them gain 25 yards running Thomas Jones in the wind and rain against the Broncos, who possessed the worst rushing defense in the league, and then come out and run a double-reverse resulting in a fumble was more than I could stomach. They then followed that up with 13 passing plays out of their next 15 plays. Again, I remind you, in inclement weather against the league's worst D. For any head-coach to sit there and let the OC call such a horrendous game is a great example of poor head coaching. The Jets play calling alone cost them at least 5 games this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Yes, he has a headset on and watched as the Jets would consistently average 5-10YPC and reel off 12 straight pass plays with a number of 3 and outs. Watching them gain 25 yards running Thomas Jones in the wind and rain against the Broncos, who possessed the worst rushing defense in the league, and then come out and run a double-reverse resulting in a fumble was more than I could stomach. They then followed that up with 13 passing plays out of their next 15 plays. Again, I remind you, in inclement weather against the league's worst D. For any head-coach to sit there and let the OC call such a horrendous game is a great example of poor head coaching. The Jets play calling alone cost them at least 5 games this season! Fair enough... And I know exactly how you feel. As a Bills fan, this kind of thing happened a lot with Penis Juron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Can you explain this to me? How is his getting fired from the head coach position in NY a payback to anything related to the Pats? I must be missing something. i know you are smarter than this.....since it's the end of December, you must be ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy n Dirty Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Can you explain this to me? How is his getting fired from the head coach position in NY a payback to anything related to the Pats? I must be missing something. Probably a reference to Mangini blowing the whistle on Belichick and lucnhing the whole SpyGate affair. Re darin's post above - I heard a radio host discussing this exact issue earlier last week, i.e., the idea that Mangini was trying to imitate Belichick's style. The host said he knew Mangini a little bit and he did not think this was the case, that this is just who Mangini is (reserved, doesn't show his emotions much, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip_Side Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 very surprised, he was a good coach in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 very surprised, he was a good coach in my eyes. Jets went 4-12 in 2007. This year they go 9-7 and the coach gets the boot. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Jets went 4-12 in 2007. This year they go 9-7 and the coach gets the boot. Go figure. They spent a TON of money and didn't make the playoffs and he looked terrible along the way, no surprise here at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I wouldn't mind seeing Mangini in Houston as the DC. I think Kubiak will end up clearing house on the defensive side of the coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 They spent a TON of money and didn't make the playoffs and he looked terrible along the way, no surprise here at all. Sure but let's see where the Jets end up at the end of 2009. I'm willing to bet they'll be worse than 9-7 with the Pats still strong and Miami getting stronger under Parcells (assuming he's still there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip_Side Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Jets went 4-12 in 2007. This year they go 9-7 and the coach gets the boot. Go figure. well having the pick master on your team didnt help them. it was an epic meltdown starting with favre not mangini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) so what happens to him now? i don't see another team hiring him as their HC from what i saw from him in his years in NE, i think he makes a much better DC than a HC he doesn't have the make up of a HC, imo fixed Edited December 29, 2008 by pig devilz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 he doesn't have the make up of a HC, imo Like QB, there will always be a shortage of NFL caliber HCs. A dozen teams will always be looking. I would think Mangini gets another shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 so what happens to him now?i don't see another team hiring him as their HC from what i saw from him in his years in NE, i think he makes a much better OC than a HC he doesn't have the make up of a HC, imo He's never been an OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__HAUSE__ Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Heck we could use him...bring him to Buffalo!!!...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarina Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 so what happens to him now?i don't see another team hiring him as their HC from what i saw from him in his years in NE, i think he makes a much better OC than a HC he doesn't have the make up of a HC, imo He was a DC, was he not? BB's boy genius until their falling out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Like QB, there will always be a shortage of NFL caliber HCs. A dozen teams will always be looking. I would think Mangini gets another shot. true, but no one wants another team's immediate castoff. they almost always have to take a coordinator position somewhere to re-prove themselves first before they get another chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 true, but no one wants another team's immediate castoff. they almost always have to take a coordinator position somewhere to re-prove themselves first before they get another chance. This is true. I do think Mangini will end up HC with another team within a year or three though, especially as every year seems to see a minimum of eight HCs heading out the door. Which brings up the subject of who else will be out this year? SF already disposed of theirs, as did STL. That's five for the year - am I missing any? - another three to go for the rough average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Mangini failed to make any adjustements on defense during this 1-4 stretch, and unless Buffalo gift wraps that game, it would have been 0-5. He just refused to adjust. He lept rushing 3 and playing very passive defensive schemes. Mangini wanted Favre. He got him, and he sank with him. This collapse is 90% on Mangini and Favre. The owner is about to hit Jets fans for hugh PSL's. Fans aren't going to pony up $10,000 a seat to watch this debauchery. Woody Johnson opened the checkbook, Mangini went out and got all the FA's he wanted, including Favre. Nothing less than a playoff appearance was going to be enough, especially with NE losing Brady. I think the final straw was when Mangini admitted they spent part of the week before the Seattle game preparing for Miami so the team could take the holidays off. Well, Mangini can go spend lots of time with his family now, after all, he desrves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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