matt770 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Someone please explain to me how Denver's defense was responsible for the pick-6 thrown by Orton last night??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Couch Potatoe Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Someone please explain to me how Denver's defense was responsible for the pick-6 thrown by Orton last night??? It's total points scored against that team don't matter how it's scored. Pretty sure it's like that on every site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 It's total points scored against that team don't matter how it's scored. Pretty sure it's like that on every site. We only score points against the defense. The Steelers D gave up 3 points in our leagues last night, not 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 It's total points scored against that team don't matter how it's scored. Pretty sure it's like that on every site. Makes no sense, I drafted the team's defense/ST based on their ability to stop the other team's offense, rack up sacks/turnovers and to score on special teams. This is a stupid rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 It's total points scored against that team don't matter how it's scored. Pretty sure it's like that on every site. mfl lets you decide if you want it to be either "all points against", or just "offensive poitns against"...likely a commissioner setting in most formats, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 We only score points against the defense. The Steelers D gave up 3 points in our leagues last night, not 10. NFL.com scoring for Pittsburgh's defense last night: 10 PA, 242 YDS, DTD (48), 3 Int, 2 SACK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Scoring from out BoTH league (via mfl.com): Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def at Broncos Mon 8:30 p.m. ET 2.0 2 Sacked a QB 3.0 3 Interceptions 6.0 1 Defensive/Special Teams TDs 5.1 51 Interception Return Yards 10.0 3 Offensive Points Against 26.1 Subtotal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 NFL.com scoring for Pittsburgh's defense last night:10 PA, 242 YDS, DTD (48), 3 Int, 2 SACK I'd take the 48 touchdowns and stop complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 It's total points scored against that team don't matter how it's scored. Pretty sure it's like that on every site. even Yahoo does this the right way - PITT D let up 4 points last night as per Yahoo PLUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 even Yahoo does this the right way - PITT D let up 4 points last night as per Yahoo PLUS Yahoo counts the PAT after the defensive score as points against? I don't think I've ever seen that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myhousekey Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 (edited) mfl lets you decide if you want it to be either "all points against", or just "offensive poitns against"...likely a commissioner setting in most formats, no? FYI, we have our MFL league set up for "offensive points against + special teams points against" and apparently MFL doesn't consider a punt blocked for a TD as a special teams play. So in our league we had to manual adjust scoring to note the Packers had 31 points against instead of 24. MFL's response when I asked them about it: The "Special Teams Points Against" rule only includes punt and kickoff return TDs, so it does not include Blocked punt or Blocked FG touchdowns. Those are considered defensive TDs Personally I'm of the opinion that as soon as a ball is kicked or attempted to be kicked it becomes a special teams play and is no longer an offensive play. Edited November 10, 2009 by myhousekey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Personally I'm of the opinion that as soon as a ball is kicked or attempted to be kicked it becomes a special teams play and is no longer an offensive play. +1 Not sure how they can think that a scoring result of a kicked ball would not be called a "special teams play"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoawhoa Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Someone please explain to me how Denver's defense was responsible for the pick-6 thrown by Orton last night??? Aren't you more concerned with how crappy the Giants are playing? I would be if I were a Giants fan, you guys are going downhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 +1 Not sure how they can think that a scoring result of a kicked ball would not be called a "special teams play"? In Norris (a BotH) we only have 1 "special teams" formation: the kicking team on a kick-off. The receiving team in that case is also a special team, since we allow a TD return to go to the Team D and the player if he was started on offense. We specifically state that punts and field goal formations are offensive for scoring purposes. A fake FG for a TD is NOT a special team play but is scored as an offensive one. I think Nick Folk threw a TD pass a year or two ago and he got the 4 points for that, not the Dallas D. My favorite debate is always the "who's on defense" debate when a cornerback grabs an interception but then fumbles it back to the offense on the same play. Keenan McCardell did that a few years ago as a WR and scored on that play. Oh the Tamp D v McCardell Debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) NFL.com is by far the worst, most counter-intuitive, and frustratingly stupid fantasy football league management software I've ever used. And I've used Microsoft Excel 97 as a league manager. I've used Sandlot Football. I've used Yahoo before it was cool. Setting a frinking lineup is a very frustrating thing to do because your bench players need to be designated as a position or a flex. So, lets say you swap in Derrick Mason on your bench as a RB/WR/TE, in for Andre Johnson in your starters as WR. 1. Switch Johnson from Active to Inactive 2. Switch Mason from Inactive to Active 3. Submit ERROR! Your starting lineup has too many WRs started! Limit is 2. 4. Switch Mason from WR to RB/WR/TE 5. Submit ERROR! Your roster has too many WRs. Limit is 5. 6. Switch Johnson on bench from WR to RB/WR/TE 7. Submit Success! After 2 minutes and some colorful curse words, you have successfully swapped one player! Edited November 12, 2009 by AtomicCEO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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