Lloyd Dobler Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Just saw it on Mike & Mike (ESPN), I don't have a link yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMF Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Here is the link: Redskins trade Haynesworth to Patriots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 What were they a little jealous of the Jets getting all the spotlight? As a Jets fan, i laugh about something like this. Have fun with all that extra cap room, good luck getting him to rework his contract. No to mention it was hard enough for him to pass the conditioning test? Isn't he on trail for domestic abuse? Last but not least, Good luck Bill and company trying to get him to do what you want. Shanahan is a classier and much better coach then Bill(a little bias as a Jet fan, but i think most would agree) and he wouldn't listen to him, why would he start now. I get that it was only for a 2013 third rounder, which is a beyond fantastic price, but i don't think there is one person with more luggage than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 What were they a little jealous of the Jets getting all the spotlight? As a Jets fan, i laugh about something like this. Have fun with all that extra cap room, good luck getting him to rework his contract. No to mention it was hard enough for him to pass the conditioning test? Isn't he on trail for domestic abuse? Last but not least, Good luck Bill and company trying to get him to do what you want. Shanahan is a classier and much better coach then Bill[(a little bias as a Jet fan, but i think most would agree) and he wouldn't listen to him, why would he start now. I get that it was only for a 2013 third rounder, which is a beyond fantastic price, but i don't think there is one person with more luggage than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 What were they a little jealous of the Jets getting all the spotlight? As a Jets fan, i laugh about something like this. Have fun with all that extra cap room, good luck getting him to rework his contract. No to mention it was hard enough for him to pass the conditioning test? Isn't he on trail for domestic abuse? Last but not least, Good luck Bill and company trying to get him to do what you want. Shanahan is a classier and much better coach then Bill(a little bias as a Jet fan, but i think most would agree) and he wouldn't listen to him, why would he start now. I get that it was only for a 2013 third rounder, which is a beyond fantastic price, but i don't think there is one person with more luggage than him. I don't agree with the Shanahan / Belichick comparison. Not even close. The Pats know what they are doing. You watch...if Fat Albert doesn't work out, they'll spin him off a la Moss...and wind up with a 2nd rounder for him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 What were they a little jealous of the Jets getting all the spotlight? As a Jets fan, i laugh about something like this. Have fun with all that extra cap room, good luck getting him to rework his contract. No to mention it was hard enough for him to pass the conditioning test? Isn't he on trail for domestic abuse? Last but not least, Good luck Bill and company trying to get him to do what you want. Shanahan is a classier and much better coach then Bill(a little bias as a Jet fan, but i think most would agree) and he wouldn't listen to him, why would he start now. I get that it was only for a 2013 third rounder, which is a beyond fantastic price, but i don't think there is one person with more luggage than him. I believe it was a 5th rounder.... does that make it even more fantastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I believe it was a 5th rounder.... does that make it even more fantastic? I believe it was a 5th rounder two years down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarina Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 We'll gladly pay you a 5th rounder in two years for a big tub of lard today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfamdelfam Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 If he's even half of what he was in Tennessee he and Vince Wilfork could be dominate inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I don't agree with the Shanahan / Belichick comparison. Not even close. The Pats know what they are doing. You watch...if Fat Albert doesn't work out, they'll spin him off a la Moss...and wind up with a 2nd rounder for him! I absolutely agree here. Bolin saw something with Shanahan. Not that he wasn't winning but I think he saw something in the mans soul. They had a bond between the two but I honestly think Shanahan lost something emmotionally to which changed him. Last year was kind of evident. I'd actually be scared if I were Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I absolutely agree here. Bolin saw something with Shanahan. Not that he wasn't winning but I think he saw something in the mans soul. They had a bond between the two but I honestly think Shanahan lost something emmotionally to which changed him. Last year was kind of evident. I'd actually be scared if I were Washington. I thought he sold his soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 From the Globe. http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...s_trade_14.html The Patriots made their bold move. The team acquired defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth from the Washington Redskins, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. The Patriots sent a 2013 fifth-round pick to the Redskins. The trade is contingent on Haynesworth passing his physical, which has been a bit of an issue in the past. Well, this will certainly liven up camp. There is no question that when the 6-5 1/2, 320-pound Haynesworth is right, he's terrific and the best defensive lineman in football. Double teams can barely contain him as he can rush the passer and defend the run. But he hasn't been right since getting paid by the Redskins in 2009 to the tune of $115 million over seven years. It's essentially a four-year, $48-million contract because his base salary goes to $29 million in '13. Hayesworth, if he wasn't asked to restructure his contract, is due $5.4 million in base salary this season (plus a $1 million workout bounus) and $7.2 million next year. The money is why this is Belichick's biggest reclamation project. When Randy Moss went to New England, he needed to remake himself to get paid down the line (still hasn't happened). Running back Corey Dillon, however, was making a nice chunk of change 3.3 million for 2004 and $3.85 million for '05. But Dillon at least liked to play. People aren't sure of that with Haynesworth. Let's not forget that Haynesworth faces an Aug. 23 trial for misdemeanor sexual assault. On the field, Haynesworth was suspended for the final month of the season by the Redskins. At the time he said he couldn't play for in the Redskins' 3-4 scheme any longer. The Patriots play a lot of four-man fronts, but he's still going to have to play the 3-4. That being said, no one is better in the league at fitting his scheme to his players than Belichick. Redskins coach Mike Shanahan and defensive coordinator Jim Haslett (a former head coach himself) couldn't get Haynesworth to do anything. Of course, Shanahan tried to jam it down Haynesworth's throat. "I don't think I've ever had a player just tell me he didn't want to play "Okie" defense [the base 3-4] and then later say he didn't want to play nickel versus the run, 'Just play me on third downs,'" Haslett said. "No, I've never had that before. And we tried to accommodate him. It's a shame because he's athletic enough. He can do almost anything he wants. Obviously, he didn't want to do it. Good athletes can do a lot of different things. Basketball players -- guards can play forwards, they can play different positions. I watch throughout the league, I see wide receivers do the 'Wildcat.' I think to myself, 'If you're a good enough athlete, you can do almost anything you want. You've just got to want to do it.'" Haslett continued in on Haynesworth. "You always want to use good players, but they've got to be willing to do what you want them to do," Haslett said. "Obviously, if the guy's not willing to do what you want them to do and you're the head coach, and the guy doesn't practice well on Thursday -- about as poor as I've ever seen -- and then Friday, a so-called illness that he doesn't practice. Then, if I'm the head coach on Saturday, getting ready for Sunday, you've got to make a decision: What's best for the football club? "I think Mike made the right decision to make him inactive, based off what he saw. We know over the years, based off what we saw last year in film, when he doesn't practice well or he doesn't show up for Christmas -- or whatever the situation is -- then he doesn't play well." Like the drafting of QB Ryan Mallett, this is another move most teams couldn't afford to make because they would run the risk of a Haynesworth blowup derailing the season. Patriots don't have to worry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfamdelfam Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 are they switching to a 4-3? Cuz I thought Wilfork was alone in the center? nothings confirmed but my guess is he could play right DE and the Patriots do play plenty of 4-3 formations so he would then move to DT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Shanahan is a classier and much better coach then Bill Ummm, no he is not. Not even close. I believe you are joking, at least I hope you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Ummm, no he is not. Not even close. I believe you are joking, at least I hope you are. There was a time and a day that this statement was true. Especially the classy part. It hasn't, however, been true for about the last decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 A classiness battle between two confirmed cheaters. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 A classiness battle between two confirmed cheaters. Interesting. In the day, though, I never knew Shanny as a cheater. One of the reasons (one of many) him and Davis couldn't see eye to eye, was the fact that Al wanted Shanny to "bend" the rules and play dirty. He didn't want to win in that fashion (coming from Dan Reeves and Bill Walsh). He did go the wrong direction after his super bowl wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonsoxandy Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 What were they a little jealous of the Jets getting all the spotlight? As a Jets fan, i laugh about something like this. Have fun with all that extra cap room, good luck getting him to rework his contract. No to mention it was hard enough for him to pass the conditioning test? Isn't he on trail for domestic abuse? Last but not least, Good luck Bill and company trying to get him to do what you want. Shanahan is a classier and much better coach then Bill(a little bias as a Jet fan, but i think most would agree) and he wouldn't listen to him, why would he start now. I get that it was only for a 2013 third rounder, which is a beyond fantastic price, but i don't think there is one person with more luggage than him. This is such a bad and incorrect post it is hilarious... 1. They are definetely not doing this becuase they are jealous of the Jets, what have the Jets done this off-season again-re-sign one of their players...wow thats incredible. Still doesn't make them any better than they were last year. 2. You laugh about this? I think a sane Jets fan should be worried. He was an absolute beast with the Titans and the only reason it really didn't work out with the Redskins is because Shanahan was an absolute jerk to him from the beginning and he really was treated very unfairly. I'd give up too. 3. He will do what the Pats want because the Patriots are a super-bowl contender, not some garbage team that has no idea what they are doing (bringing in over 6 WR's this offseason giving them over 14 total....hmmm). 4. Alright, your claim that Shanhan is a better coach than Bill is laughable. One reason he may not have listened to Shanhan in addition to being picked on was Shanhan's possible racism (search Shanahan racist on google if you don't believe it may exist). He gets picked on from the beginning, same with McNabb, and they happen both to be black. Also, to see why Belichick can and will turn Haynesworth mentally around you may want to check out that Randy Moss dude. 5. Too bad it wasn't even a 2013 third-rounder as people corrected you above. It was 2013 5th-rounder, basically nothing for a potential and former pro-bowler. Good lord, I hate Jets fans and their smugness, and how dumb they are..... just one last note---I truly belive that Haynesworth will be a valuable contributor to the Pats this year just for the record, the Pats run a 3-4 D which is another reason why Haynesworth struggled in WAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busby Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Hold the phones.... From the globe. http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...hick_hayne.html Patriots coach Bill Belichick held his first press conference of training camp - and his first since the final day of the draft in April -- and while he acknowledged that a trade is in the works to bring Albert Haynesworth from Washington to New England, it isn't done yet. "I talked to (Redskins coach) Mike Shanahan last night and we are in the process with Haynesworth, but that's not complete yet, so I really can't comment on that at this point until it's completed, if it is completed. We'll see how all that goes," he said in his opening statement. It is interesting that Belichick used the word "if" the deal for Haynesworth gets done - it could be usual Belichick-speak, his not wanting to speak in absolutes, but given Haynesworth's history with conditioning tests, the big defensive lineman's health and condition could be a concern. Asked about Haynesworth, Belichick declined to speak further on him or the process or conditions of the trade, saying again he wouldn't discuss any of that until "when it's finished, if it's finished." We'll add more updates from Belichick shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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