notamomo Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I like using the Top 200 Rankings as a guide to player values before my draft. I'm trying to figure out what "QB Heavy Scoring" actually means. All of the cheat sheets have the option to display scoring, but the Top 200 rankings do not. I assume that Performance scoring and PPR scoring are the same for cheat sheets and Top 200 rankings, so that's pretty clear. But...what is QB Heavy scoring, actually? Thanks for all the rock-solid info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trots Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 6 point passing TDs and 1 point per 10 passing yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papajohn Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) All of the cheat sheets have the option to display scoring, but the Top 200 rankings do not. I have always wondered why that is. Does anybody know the answer? Edited August 13, 2012 by Papajohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 6 point passing TDs and 1 point per 10 passing yards. Are you sure? I would have guessed 6pt, but not 1 for 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notamomo Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 6 point passing TDs and 1 point per 10 passing yards. Thanks Trots. How did you get that info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 QB heavy is for leagues that either award 6 points per passing TD or allow the use of two QBs as starters. It just reflects the greater value placed on QBs in a draft. Basically there are only three sort of drafts with have notable changes. Standard scoring with no reception points, with reception points and QB heavy. Other than IDP, all drafts are just variations on those three and those are the three things that can significantly change how you draft. All the rest - distance TDs, yardage bonuses, etc. are of minimal impact if any to how you should draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 QB heavy is for leagues that either award 6 points per passing TD or allow the use of two QBs as starters. It just reflects the greater value placed on QBs in a draft. Basically there are only three sort of drafts with have notable changes. Standard scoring with no reception points, with reception points and QB heavy. Other than IDP, all drafts are just variations on those three and those are the three things that can significantly change how you draft. All the rest - distance TDs, yardage bonuses, etc. are of minimal impact if any to how you should draft. DMD used IDP it's a start...soon enough I'll have him in a full fledged IDP league...well maybe not but I'll take what I can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdaschaf Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I have a follow up question to the originaly question. If the only difference in scoring is based on passing TDs worth 6 (and potentially a difference in pts/passing yard), then why is there a difference in the relative ranking of other players? For example: Marshawn Lynch is RB6 in Standard, RB11 in QB Heavy Darren Sproles is RB15 in Standard, RB6 in QB Heavy There are similar differences in both the WR and TE rankings as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Because we had to choose one thing and QB heavy leagues are almost always PPR leagues as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdaschaf Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Because we had to choose one thing and QB heavy leagues are almost always PPR leagues as well. Sounds good. If my league uses 6pts per td but is not ppr, which if the two would you suggest using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Sounds good. If my league uses 6pts per td but is not ppr, which if the two would you suggest using? Use standard scoring. The 6 pt. TDs is really a very minor consideration - it's really the leagues that use 2 QBs or allow QBs to be used as flex that should go QB heavy. Also, leagues that score passing yardage at 1 pt per 10 yards or points per completion also should use the QB heavy charts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croe Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Sounds good. If my league uses 6pts per td but is not ppr, which if the two would you suggest using? You can update your league scoring in your myhuddle and use your myhuddle scoring for all of your cheat sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croe Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Or maybe that doesn't affect the top 200? Not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) I have always wondered why that is. Does anybody know the answer? Probably because top 200 rankings are a much more inexact science than are tiers, which only break down by position. Reason being that league scoring, lineup requirements, league tendencies, runs, etc, have to be taken into account for an interpositional ranking, so it's really more of a loose baseline. Tiers are helpful because they allow you too see better what's being depleted at each position, and they are also can be easily customized to your league scoring, but a top 200 list cannot possibly be as strict of a guide to go by, when it relies on much more than just league scoring to take into account to give an accurate list. Thus, to make it simple, they just have a couple standard versions that you can tweak as you see fit for your league, or just use the customized tiered cheatsheets instead. My best guess anyway, but I thought I remembered a thread where DMD clarified on this... Edited August 16, 2012 by delusions of grandeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Right - top 200 was made assuming a number of things and that could change in every league. The only value of a top 200 really is showing when positions are taken or held off on. When you take a position, it has to do with the scoring system, the roster and starter requirements, how positions stack up against each other and what the individual demand will be for whatever position, etc.. We made 3 different 200 lists that should be the three basics - no reception pts, reception pts and QB-heavy (when you can start 2 QBs or they are far away the highest scoring position). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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