BeeR Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Thoughts on this? I don't mean a few spots higher than expected, but way earlier than he would normally go in a "snake" draft. Personally I've tried it a time or 3 and never again. When I tried do it to get a guy I liked on the cheap, didn't work because people have money and someone will be willing to pay more than me. When I tried do it to "make" someone buy a guy I didn't like, bidding would be lower than expected and either people were getting the bargains I was hoping for w/the other type of guys or I bid him up a little and get stuck with him. Anyone have better success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Sounds like Murphy's Law was nailing you square in the jims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 (edited) I do this all the time. But I always make sure that it is a guy that I'm comfortable with on my team if I win and a guy whose valuation I'm very sure of. Obviously you need to stick to your guns, bow out when the price gets higher than your cutoff and hope that other owners fight over him to drive up to price in this play but it works well when you know that many auctioners are going from their guts. They get caught up in the heat of the auction and want to win a guy. When you do this, one of two things always happens. 1) You get the guy at a discount. This usually happens in auctions where you can hold multiple auctions at once like on MFL. The player is viewed as inferior and slips through the cracks as the other owner battle over other players. 2) Another owner overbids for him and you have successfully siphoned extra cash out of one of your competitors early in the auction. This scenario is usually what occurs in my experience, especially when winning an auction allows for sponsoring of another player for auction. Typical players I will do this with are RB3s like Cedric Benson, low end WR2s like Jerricho Cotchery or typical QBBC QBs like David Garrard etc. Edited July 12, 2009 by Tford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0-16 Again Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Agree with TFORD I put up mid-level guy that I have some interest in but are not my sleeper guys. I make sure to have a dollar limit prior and only bid to that mark. I either get the player at what I value or less or someone overpays in my opinion. One great Idea that has worked for me is the tossing out Kickers and Defense. That way you never lose a player too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted July 13, 2009 Author Share Posted July 13, 2009 Agree with TFORD I put up mid-level guy that I have some interest in but are not my sleeper guys. I make sure to have a dollar limit prior and only bid to that mark. I either get the player at what I value or less or someone overpays in my opinion. One great Idea that has worked for me is the tossing out Kickers and Defense. That way you never lose a player too early. I thought of that but don't believe it in any more because it "wastes" my nomination that I could have used to toss out a guy I don't want and have someone else buy him and weaken their bidding ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Thoughts on this? I don't mean a few spots higher than expected, but way earlier than he would normally go in a "snake" draft. Personally I've tried it a time or 3 and never again. When I tried do it to get a guy I liked on the cheap, didn't work because people have money and someone will be willing to pay more than me. When I tried do it to "make" someone buy a guy I didn't like, bidding would be lower than expected and either people were getting the bargains I was hoping for w/the other type of guys or I bid him up a little and get stuck with him. Anyone have better success? My local auction league, in N. Texas, has a couple of owners who are major Michigan Wolverines homers. Anyways, they kept referencing a "former Michigan god" who was still available and I thought I had sniffed it out, so I brought up Anthony Fasano for $1. . . I got Anthony Fasano on my team for $1, after already having two TEs, and couldn't figure out where I had screwed up. Turns out they were talking about Anthony Thomas, and weren't really anointing him a Michigan god much more than they were just poking fun at his lack of success at the time. Needless to say, if you decide to bring up someone who you think is valued much more than what you value him at, make sure you know what you're doing. I did not know what I was doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I'm a fan of picking studs that I have NO interest in at prices I was pretty sure they'd go at, and putting them out early ... Tom Brady was a good example of that last year ... same with Randy Moss ... there was sure to be someone who thought that while TB wouldn't get 50+ TDs, he was a good bet for 45 ... or that Moss was a good bet for 20 ... But, once those players are out, I often will put out players that are in a hand-cuff situation and put out the lesser of the two handcuffs (like any of the NE RBs this year, or possibly a guy like Lendale White) ... or ... "stars of yesteryear" (if Marvin Harrison signs somewhere, he'd be a candidate for this type of nomination) ... or ... "young guys who seem too hot for my taste" (Chris Johnson or Matt Ryan may be this type of guy) ... ...you get the drift... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belushi Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I'll do it with big-name guys that I don't want to suck money out of the other owners early on, so they won't have the money to bid on guys that I want. I don't ever throw out guys that I want early on when other owners are sitting on piles of cash. One strategy that I've only tried once is throwing out clear handcuffs to guys early on. If I can get them cheap, I've got a good shot at getting the starting player too, because guys may not want to bid on a guy when they can't get his handcuff. If they go for allot, it will just use up a bunch of someone else's cap on a player that's not starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I do this all the time. But I always make sure that it is a guy that I'm comfortable with on my team if I win and a guy whose valuation I'm very sure of. Obviously you need to stick to your guns, bow out when the price gets higher than your cutoff and hope that other owners fight over him to drive up to price in this play but it works well when you know that many auctioners are going from their guts. They get caught up in the heat of the auction and want to win a guy. When you do this, one of two things always happens. 1) You get the guy at a discount. This usually happens in auctions where you can hold multiple auctions at once like on MFL. The player is viewed as inferior and slips through the cracks as the other owner battle over other players. 2) Another owner overbids for him and you have successfully siphoned extra cash out of one of your competitors early in the auction. This scenario is usually what occurs in my experience, especially when winning an auction allows for sponsoring of another player for auction. Typical players I will do this with are RB3s like Cedric Benson, low end WR2s like Jerricho Cotchery or typical QBBC QBs like David Garrard etc. I agree with TFord's post and take this approach with some of my nominations. Other times I throw up some bigger name player that I don't want. Either way, I get a player at a discount or siphon off some cash from an opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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