Of course you can keep it

[SEC=UGA]

McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

 

Wow, what a 'coincidence'.

 

I really like this part....

 

The biggest single waiver, for 351,000 people, was for the United Federation of Teachers Welfare Fund, a New York union providing coverage for city teachers. The waivers are effective for a year and were granted to insurance plans and companies that showed that employee premiums would rise or that workers would lose coverage without them, Santillo says.

[driveby]

I think a pwned retraction is in order.

[driveby]

I really like this part....

The waivers are effective for a year and were granted to insurance plans and companies that showed that employee premiums would rise or that workers would lose coverage without them, Santillo says.

 

Sounds like everyone can opt out then.

[gbpfan1231]

I think a pwned retraction is in order.

crickets crickets crickets.

 

What a frickin joke

[bpwallace49]

crickets crickets crickets.

 

What a frickin joke

 

[redrumjuice]

Sounds like everyone can opt out then.

 

 

Voters in 3 states to consider opting out of 'Obamacare'

 

Yes We Can!

[redrumjuice]

"If you like your plan, and you like your doctor, you won't have to do a thing, you keep your plan, you keep your doctor"

 

The Obama administration is grappling with implementing the unpopular healthcare reform law in the weeks leading up to the midterm election. Some regulations establishing the rules of the various pieces of the health overhaul passed by Congress have been issued, and others will be released in the years to come. But the threat of employers dropping their coverage because of the new law has emerged as a thorny political problem this fall.

[westvirginia]

Never fear, the community organizer who spent a whole 133 days in the senate prior to campaigning for prez, is on the J-O-B! He truly understands enough business, economics and the health industry to adequately propound on this issue!

 

I still firmly maintain this is what they want to happen, and if things are not reversed, in another 5-7 years we'll have these same pols telling us: "We tried free-market reforms and they just aren't working. This is more properly a job for the federal government, we have to have the government to ensure the basic right of HC for all Americans!" Anyone who thinks they truly care about HC is a rube or intentionally ignorant.

[Hugh B Tool]

Even if McDonalds reverses their (public) position in this case, there are and will be plenty of others to validate my point; Obama said if you like your insurance you can keep it - that was a lie.

 

yeah for sure, there is still some good Bush/Cheney koolaid left in your fridge........ cause they NEVER told bold faced lies to the public, right. Maybe you should worry about pleasing your wife a bit more. Probably a lot more fun and less tedious and hopefully fulfilling

[redrumjuice]

cause they NEVER told bold faced lies to the public, right. Maybe you should worry about pleasing your wife a bit more.

 

Hope and Change is alive and well.

 

Look what you've been reduced too? Does it make you feel dejected?

[bushwacked]

Never fear, the community organizer who spent a whole 133 days in the senate prior to campaigning for prez, is on the J-O-B! He truly understands enough business, economics and the health industry to adequately propound on this issue!

 

I still firmly maintain this is what they want to happen, and if things are not reversed, in another 5-7 years we'll have these same pols telling us: "We tried free-market reforms and they just aren't working. This is more properly a job for the federal government, we have to have the government to ensure the basic right of HC for all Americans!" Anyone who thinks they truly care about HC is a rube or intentionally ignorant.

 

You sound smart.

[Hugh B Tool]

Hope and Change is alive and well.

 

Look what you've been reduced too? Does it make you feel dejected?

 

 

Not really, but your blind idiocy makes me smile. How does that hook taste with rum?

[Perchoutofwater]

How do these waivers pass the smell test with regards to equal protection? Just another way for politicians to reward their supporters.

[driveby]

The state has given Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield the go ahead to raise premiums by as much as 47 percent for some members, and says health care reform is the reason why.

 

Attorney General Richard Blumenthal sent a letter to Insurance Commissioner Thomas Sullivan on Oct. 6, asking what he called "excessive" increases were approved without full consideration of all the facts. His letter mentioned rate increases for both Anthem and Aetna.

 

The new rates took effect Oct. 1, and include increases from 19 percent all the way to 47 percent depending on the individual, the Hartford Courant reported.

 

Sullivan responded to Blumenthal saying the new rates included "very rich benefits" mandated by federal law.

 

"There is not one person in the state of Connecticut who will see an increase in their current premiums based on what the department approved for Anthem and Aetna," Sullivan said in a release. "The rates that were filed and approved reflect the current cost to deliver care and the impact of more comprehensive benefit designs required under the federal healthcare reform law. If the attorney general wants to complain to someone, he should complain to Congress."

 

 

People who were enrolled in the Anthem program prior to the increase will not see a change, according to the agency. The increased rates will be applied to new customers.

 

 

In a letter to Blumenthal, Sullivan said the rates granted were reduced from the company's original request of 39 percent to 58 percent increases.

 

"I find myself in an unprecedented place and time, as do my counterparts throughout the country, in overseeing one of the most far-reaching policy initiatives enacted by the federal government in recent history," Sullivan said in the letter. "It is unfortunate that this reform, while addressing insurer behavior, has provided little to no reform of the escalating costs of the health care delivery system."

[driveby]

WASHINGTON – Aerospace giant Boeing is joining the list of companies that say the new health care law could have a potential downside for their workers.

 

In a letter mailed to employees late last week, the company cited the overhaul as part of the reason it is asking some 90,000 nonunion workers to pay significantly more for their health plan next year. A copy of the letter was obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

 

"The newly enacted health care reform legislation, while intended to expand access to care for millions of uninsured Americans, is also adding cost pressure as requirements of the new law are phased in over the next several years," wrote Rick Stephens, Boeing's senior vice president for human resources.

 

Boeing is the latest major employer to signal a shift for its workers as a result of the legislation, which expands coverage to more than 30 million uninsured people and ranks as President Barack Obama's top domestic achievement. Earlier, McDonald's had raised questions about whether a limited benefit plan that serves some 30,000 of its employees would remain viable under the law. That prompted the administration to issue McDonald's a waiver from certain requirements under the law.

[SEC=UGA]

WASHINGTON – Aerospace giant Boeing is joining the list of companies that say the new health care law could have a potential downside for their workers.

 

In a letter mailed to employees late last week, the company cited the overhaul as part of the reason it is asking some 90,000 nonunion workers to pay significantly more for their health plan next year. A copy of the letter was obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

 

"The newly enacted health care reform legislation, while intended to expand access to care for millions of uninsured Americans, is also adding cost pressure as requirements of the new law are phased in over the next several years," wrote Rick Stephens, Boeing's senior vice president for human resources.

 

Boeing is the latest major employer to signal a shift for its workers as a result of the legislation, which expands coverage to more than 30 million uninsured people and ranks as President Barack Obama's top domestic achievement. Earlier, McDonald's had raised questions about whether a limited benefit plan that serves some 30,000 of its employees would remain viable under the law. That prompted the administration to issue McDonald's a waiver from certain requirements under the law.

 

When are they going to realize that this legislation is a pile of sh!t, scrap the thing and start over again?

[Ursa Majoris]

When are they going to realize that this legislation is a pile of sh!t, scrap the thing and start over again?

If your crew had done anything beyond sulk in the corner, the legislation would probably have been better. Now that you're going to be in charge, go ahead and repeal it and put together something better instead of sitting on your fat wobbly butts dreaming up reasons to go to war.

[Perchoutofwater]

If your crew had done anything beyond sulk in the corner, the legislation would probably have been better. Now that you're going to be in charge, go ahead and repeal it and put together something better instead of sitting on your fat wobbly butts dreaming up reasons to go to war.

 

They were sitting in the corner sulking because the legislation was written behind closed doors that they were not allowed to enter, and they didn't have the numbers to stop it. This is a good talking point, but it remains just a talking point with no real legitimacy if looked at from anything like an objective perspective. Who wrote the legislation Ursa?

[Ursa Majoris]

They were sitting in the corner sulking because the legislation was written behind closed doors that they were not allowed to enter, and they didn't have the numbers to stop it. This is a good talking point, but it remains just a talking point with no real legitimacy if looked at from anything like an objective perspective. Who wrote the legislation Ursa?

The Party of No was offered the opportunity to collaborate just as it was on the Financial Reform legislation. Instead of doing that, it chose to be as obstructionist as possible, wagering that would eventually win it more seats and to hell with the cost to the country.

 

Correct wager, well done. Bravo, party of the patriots.

[Perchoutofwater]

The Party of No was offered the opportunity to collaborate just as it was on the Financial Reform legislation. Instead of doing that, it chose to be as obstructionist as possible, wagering that would eventually win it more seats and to hell with the cost to the country.

 

Correct wager, well done. Bravo, party of the patriots.

 

Ursa, who wrote the majority of the bill?

 

True or False, in the final days leading up to the voter democrats were holding closed door sessions regarding the legislation.

 

It's easy to say the Republicans are the party of no, but could it be because they weren't given any real say in the bill to begin with? It makes a good bumper sticker, but when you look at how the health care bill went down, it doesn't pass the smell test. How many republican sponsored amendments made it into the final bill?

 

If Republicans stated they were drastically going to reduce the welfare state and didn't let the Dems add a single amendment and you had a vote, how would you vote? Should people throw away their principles and beliefs just in the name of bipartisanship? This congress and this president are among the most liberal we've ever seen. They have continually rammed unpopular legislation down our throats. Should the Republicans voted for something they didn't agree with, and the majority of the American people didn't agree with just in the name of bipartisanship? Frankly that is the reason spending has gotten so out of control over the last few decades. It is time for people to stand on their convictions. I just wish the senators that were bribed to vote for this monstrosity had stood on theirs.

[SEC=UGA]

If your crew had done anything beyond sulk in the corner, the legislation would probably have been better. Now that you're going to be in charge, go ahead and repeal it and put together something better instead of sitting on your fat wobbly butts dreaming up reasons to go to war.

 

If I know a train is coming I'm not going to get on the tracks, even if the conductor call me on my cell and asks me to join him....

[Ursa Majoris]

Ursa, who wrote the majority of the bill?

Who would you think wrote it? The governing party.

True or False, in the final days leading up to the voter democrats were holding closed door sessions regarding the legislation.

True. By that time the Republicans had specifically declared that they were not taking part.

It's easy to say the Republicans are the party of no, but could it be because they weren't given any real say in the bill to begin with? It makes a good bumper sticker, but when you look at how the health care bill went down, it doesn't pass the smell test. How many republican sponsored amendments made it into the final bill?

Any amendments submitted were submitted in the full and certain knowledge they would be rejected because they were designed to be.

[bpwallace49]

WASHINGTON – Aerospace giant Boeing is joining the list of companies that say the new health care law could have a potential downside for their workers.

 

In a letter mailed to employees late last week, the company cited the overhaul as part of the reason it is asking some 90,000 nonunion workers to pay significantly more for their health plan next year. A copy of the letter was obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

 

"The newly enacted health care reform legislation, while intended to expand access to care for millions of uninsured Americans, is also adding cost pressure as requirements of the new law are phased in over the next several years," wrote Rick Stephens, Boeing's senior vice president for human resources.

 

Boeing is the latest major employer to signal a shift for its workers as a result of the legislation, which expands coverage to more than 30 million uninsured people and ranks as President Barack Obama's top domestic achievement. Earlier, McDonald's had raised questions about whether a limited benefit plan that serves some 30,000 of its employees would remain viable under the law. That prompted the administration to issue McDonald's a waiver from certain requirements under the law.

 

From that same article . . but non surprisingly, you failed to include this passage . . .

 

"We want to manage our costs so this tax doesn't apply to our plan, but that's down the road," said Forte. "If this health care law hadn't passed, would we be making changes to the health care benefit? Absolutely. For competitive reasons."

 

Sooo the change would happened despite the legislation due to free market influences? Personally . . I blame Obama.

[SEC=UGA]

From that same article . . but non surprisingly, you failed to include this passage . . .

 

 

 

Sooo the change would happened despite the legislation due to free market influences? Personally . . I blame Obama.

 

Anyone have a link to the full article?

[driveby]

Anyone have a link to the full article?

here