LosGatosEnFuegos Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Since the names are not ordered by ranking within the tiers, it would be very helpful if they were alphabetical by last name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 If you have trouble finding a player I suggest you use the search function in your browser. I've done that a lot on the ROS rankings and others that are very long and I'm having trouble finding the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yes, I do that a lot too. A small amount of work alphabetizing would save thousands of people having to do that numerous times per week. A large amount of work might link it to the MyHuddle section and highlight tracked players, but I recognize that this is indeed a very large amount of work. Alphabetizing an unordered list is not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I'll let you in on a little secret: the SBL list is in fact in something of an order. After I do all the writeups and assign each player a grade (it's no longer listed on the site like it used to be, but it essentially correlates to Best Bet, Great Play, Solid Start, etc.), I then copy DMD's list of rankings with projections. I load that into Excel, add a column and insert my grades. Then I sort by my grades. So for the most part the Best Bets are in order from top DMD projection to bottom; then the Great Plays, in similar order; then the Solid Starts in similar order; etc. There are a few tweaks along the way as I look at the list and decide if a guy needs to move up or down between groups, but for the most part that's the non-order order that they're in. The problem with alphabetizing from that list would be that they'd sort by first name, as the field contains first and last name. And since I then have to re-key all those names into the SBL, adding another step to parse out the last name and do a sort isn't an enticing add to my plate. That said, there are definitely ways to improve the way the SBL ties to MyHuddle and such. It's something that can certainly be discussed in the offseason. And if there's a way to make the SBL so users can sort the names alphabetically or by projection or by height or whatever makes it easier for you guys, or even print out a personalized SBL for your MyHuddle players, I'm all for that as well. Hope that helps! 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rileyrott Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Thanks for the explanation j2v. Good to know the SBL is in some sort of non-order order (and what that order is)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 2V that is great info. May I suggest that short term you add some abbreviated explanation of that on the SBL page, instead of this "This is not a ranking, simply a tiered list of players in no particular order within tier." (Which is a false statement and part of why the OP asked for a change.) I mean if there is some order, and that order is based on other rankings from the site and some tweaks why not tell the whole world ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarzon Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Thanks 2V, great to have some insight. Always thought it was ordered a bit from best to worst. Still would be nice to have My Huddle players highlighted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 2V that is great info. May I suggest that short term you add some abbreviated explanation of that on the SBL page, instead of this "This is not a ranking, simply a tiered list of players in no particular order within tier." (Which is a false statement and part of why the OP asked for a change.) I mean if there is some order, and that order is based on other rankings from the site and some tweaks why not tell the whole world ? I wouldn't say that statement is false, necessarily; it's just that the way the process works out, player names come into the sort in the same order as they appear in the P&P rankings and, once they're broken out into tiers, aren't much changed from that. It wasn't even necessarily by intent, just kind of worked out that way, but I thought it was worth mentioning. I don't know that it's conformed to uniformly enough to be a stated "order", though, which probably takes us back to where we started. If the bottom line is you want to be able to find your players on the SBL, finding a way to tie the SBL to MyHuddle becomes the priority--and probably should be the priority anyway. 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Thanks again for the response 2V, maybe I'm too much of an absolutist. But stating on the page "no particular order" and then telling us there is an actually an order, and that is is meant to "rank" the players seems inconsistent. Didn't mean to be overly harsh saying it is a false statement. But I'm sure most who pay for the huddle would like to know it isn't really random. I personally don't need a way to tie the SBL with My Huddle, I can find my players on there and am usually only looking at 1-2 guys for an extra bit of info on who is worth starting. If it is done, great I'll get the benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 Thanks for the response 2V! If it's in a sort of order, that's fine by me. Since the blurb says it's not, I assumed there was none. In other news I can't believe Excel doesn't have a built in sort by last name function. If I ever used it, Microsoft would definitely be receiving a feature request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Hey 2V (normally I'd say John but you've apparently transcended your name like rappers and everyone else is calling you 2V so it must be the cool thing to do), I'd like to request that your Start/Bench list be 100% accurate. Every week. Please rub your crystal ball harder. Thank you, 3S (See, I have a cool handle too!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Heh-heh... you said "rub harder". 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 In other news I can't believe Excel doesn't have a built in sort by last name function. If I ever used it, Microsoft would definitely be receiving a feature request. Pretty simple to add one. Assuming it's First Last such as Aaron Rodgers, and assuming A1 is the data field: =RIGHT(A1,LEN(A1)-FIND(" ",A1)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 Pretty simple to add one. Assuming it's First Last such as Aaron Rodgers, and assuming A1 is the data field: =RIGHT(A1,LEN(A1)-FIND(" ",A1)) Globally, i.e. outside the purview of FF, you'd go backwards, skip a match to Jr., Sr., Esq., M.D., Roman numerals up to a certain number, etc. Then go back to the next white space that isn't a match and sort by that. You can't assume first name last name syntax and need to account for middle names, middle initials, etc. Still an easy add though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Globally, i.e. outside the purview of FF, you'd go backwards, skip a match to Jr., Sr., Esq., M.D., Roman numerals up to a certain number, etc. Then go back to the next white space that isn't a match and sort by that. You can't assume first name last name syntax and need to account for middle names, middle initials, etc. Still an easy add though. Well yeah. You have to craft your formula specific to the field format. What is the field format of this SLB you want to sort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Heh-heh... you said "rub harder". 2V So glad to see that didn't sneak past everyone, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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