Kansas State 2000 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 (edited) UPDATED 11-14-04 Quarterbacks: #1 Alex Smith (10-0) Yards - 2440 Total TD's - 36 Int. - 2 Comp. % - 66.0 Stock - Rising #2 Jason White (10-0) Yards - 2513 Total TD's - 28 Int. - 4 Comp. % - 64.8 Stock - Rising #3 Matt Leinart (10-0) Yards - 2348 Total TD's - 26 Int. - 5 Comp. % - 65.7 Stock - Steady RunningBacks: #1 Cedric Benson (9-1) Yards - 1599 Total TD's - 19 Avg. per Carry - 5.9 Stock - Rising #2 JJ Arrington (8-1) Yards - 1415 Total TD's - 13 Avg. per Carry - 6.9 Stock - Steady #3 Adrian Peterson (10-0) Yards - 1431 Total TD's - 9 Avg. per Carry - 5.6 Stock - Slipping Wide Receiver: #1 Braylon Edwards (9-1) Yards - 1049 Total TD's - 11 Avg. Per Catch - 13.8 Stock - Slipping Overall #1 Alex Smith #2 Jason White #3 Cedric Benson #4 Braylon Edwards #5 JJ Arrington #6 Matt Leinart #7 Adrian Peterson My five to be invited to New York: Alex Smith Jason White Cedric Benson Matt Leinart Braylon Edwards Edited November 16, 2004 by Kansas State 2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted November 2, 2004 Author Share Posted November 2, 2004 #1 Alex Smith (8-0) Yards - 1905 Total TD's - 28 Int. - 2 Comp. % - 64.5 #4 Jason White (8-0) Yards - 1838 Total TD's - 20 Int. - 4 Comp. % - 63.7 Alex Smith has more yards, eight more TD's, less Int's, and a higher comp. % than White ... and his team is also undefeated. White will have to have a few HUGE games to have any chance. I, for one, am not bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadwolf Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 #1 Alex Smith (8-0)Yards - 1905 Total TD's - 28 Int. - 2 Comp. % - 64.5 #4 Jason White (8-0) Yards - 1838 Total TD's - 20 Int. - 4 Comp. % - 63.7 Alex Smith has more yards, eight more TD's, less Int's, and a higher comp. % than White ... and his team is also undefeated. White will have to have a few HUGE games to have any chance. I, for one, am not bias. 528649[/snapback] Heh, Sarge biased? Well we all are, I love my pathetic Huskies and even at 1-7 I still think I can find a Heisman hopeful in there somewhere . I like Edwards to win it. *Unless* OU goes undefeated and AP continues with the 100+ yrd games and White slips a bit. Otherwise they steal votes from each other. Unless that happens my money is on Edwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted November 5, 2004 Author Share Posted November 5, 2004 I've made my first major cut ... My list is down to the top eight. I'll take more names off after the next two games. I do not expect much change however in my top five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsters Of The Midway Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 My five to be invited to New York as of 11-4-04: Alex Smith Matt Leinart Cedric Benson Adrian Peterson Braylon Edwards 528628[/snapback] I like my five better: 1. Adrain Peterson 2. Alex Smith 3. Matt Leinart 4. Jason White 5. Cedric Benson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted November 5, 2004 Author Share Posted November 5, 2004 I like my five better:1. Adrain Peterson 2. Alex Smith 3. Matt Leinart 4. Jason White 5. Cedric Benson 536166[/snapback] I just do not see them leaving Edwards out ... he's to good ... now if his numbers to not continue it's very possible that White slips in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsters Of The Midway Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I just do not see them leaving Edwards out ... he's to good ... now if his numbers to not continue it's very possible that White slips in. 536224[/snapback] I agree with you 99%. The 1% is my homerism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 My top 1. Adrain Peterson 2. Jason White 3. Matt Leinart 4. Braylon Edwards 5. Cedric Benson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted November 7, 2004 Author Share Posted November 7, 2004 Updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 Of note: Darren Sproles Yards - 1096 Total TD's - 9 Avg. per Carry - 5.3 Stock - Rising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 (edited) Just curious - with Arrington ahead of AP in TDs and yards/game, is the ranking based on the Sooners being undefeated, perceived strength of schedule, media buzz, or all 3? Either way, I think Arrington, BEdwards and ASmith are way more valuable (individually) to their team's success than either JWhite, AP, or Leinart - because OU and USC are so loaded, they'd probably still win with the 2nd stringer QB/RBs out there, on the strength of their O-lines and killer D. But these other guys suffer from not being undefeated and lack of media buzz. I'd also have to say that as much as I like to see him play, Smith's QB stats are not as impressive as White's and Leinart's because of the D's they face. If there was only room for 2 QBs, 2 RBs and 1 WR in NYC for the show, I'd put White, Leinart, Benson, Arrington, and Edwards in there as the most deserving, as of right now. But I know life is not "fair", so AP will probably go instead of JJ... Edited November 10, 2004 by Coffeeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 If life were fair, as you like to call it. only 1 QB would be going and Leinhart would be left out behind White. 546987[/snapback] What do you mean - its not fair for Leinart to be in the running right now, ahead of another RB like Arrington? Maybe - its hard comparing apples and oranges like QBs vs. RBs. White does have better numbers so far, but the year isn't over yet. And speaking of counting chickens too early, plenty of voters felt burned by White's poor showing in the last 2 games last year, after the vote. So White probably won't get another one. And with Benson and Arrington having better numbers so far than AP, along with him being a freshman, I just don't think a Sooner will be getting it this year. Although they'll both probably be in NYC for the show. Bush will probably also get overlooked for the show, since he's not on the field as an every down back. (ASmith, Bush and Arrington making up the "honorable mention" category.) That leaves Leinart, Benson, and Edwards as the most likely, "fair" or not. I'd put money on it, but I don't know which of those 3 will get it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsters Of The Midway Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Prime example of why I dislike the fact that the Heisman is announced before the bowl games. Leinart/Bush are having similair success to White/Peterson. Wait until after the bowl games to announce the Heisman. If OU wins the NC, then either White or Peterson deserve it. If USC wins, either Leinart or Bush deserve it. Just my $0.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Prime example of why I dislike the fact that the Heisman is announced before the bowl games. Leinart/Bush are having similair success to White/Peterson. Wait until after the bowl games to announce the Heisman. If OU wins the NC, then either White or Peterson deserve it. If USC wins, either Leinart or Bush deserve it. Just my $0.02 547052[/snapback] Why? The Heisman is supposed to be for the best player in college football, not the best player on the best team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsters Of The Midway Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Why? The Heisman is supposed to be for the best player in college football, not the best player on the best team. 547109[/snapback] The Adrian Peterson wins. No questions. Time to put this debate to rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted November 11, 2004 Author Share Posted November 11, 2004 Bush has not been in my rankings since September as he has been lapped by those in my list since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Bush has not been in my rankings since September as he has been lapped by those in my list since then. 549213[/snapback] Maybe, but points/per touch would be very interesting stat - it would show Bush way out in the lead. Chow works at putting him in a position to score a TD every time he touches the ball. Perkins was doing it last year and Bush is doing it this year - no one knows exactly when the TD will come in the game, but odds are, Bush will take at least one to the house as either a RB, WR, PR or KR. Same can be said for White and AP, (and most of the QBs and RBs in contention with the Heisman,) but they have the ball a lot more often. But you're right - its hard to win the trophy that way. I'm not crying for Bush - he'll get plenty of accolades, with at least 1-2 more seasons after this one to get them. The way things are going for Stoops and Carroll, Bush and AP might meet 2-3 times for the NC game and be in NYC for the next couple trophy shows too. Cool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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