BeeR Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Spare me the Boones Farm jokes. Only a pompous loser bent on impressing others with their alleged knowledge thinks you have to spend a lot of money to buy good, even great wines. So....whacha got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Bully Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Actually wine is a very personal thing. Just because there is a $50 price tag on the bottle doesn't make it a great wine. Nor does it mean that it isn't great to wine people but completely bleecchh to the masses. That being said, what types of wine do you like? I've had the good fortune to taste all of Bully Hill's offerings and to actually meet Walter S. Taylor. There are an aweful lot of wines from that vineyard, not all of which are very good. But he has a very specific agenda not all of which is about making good wine (although it is about making good NEW YORK wine). So help us out here a little. I can offer up a lot of wines under $10 but that doesn't mean you'd want to drink them. Anyone for a little Ripple or Thunderbird? How about some MadDog 20/20? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 black box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Check out the pinned wine thread if you haven't done so already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 Actually wine is a very personal thing. Just because there is a $50 price tag on the bottle doesn't make it a great wine. Nor does it mean that it isn't great to wine people but completely bleecchh to the masses. That being said, what types of wine do you like? I've had the good fortune to taste all of Bully Hill's offerings and to actually meet Walter S. Taylor. There are an aweful lot of wines from that vineyard, not all of which are very good. But he has a very specific agenda not all of which is about making good wine (although it is about making good NEW YORK wine). So help us out here a little. I can offer up a lot of wines under $10 but that doesn't mean you'd want to drink them. Not much of a Chardonney fan, but otherwise I like most any "decent" wine, ie pretty wide open. I'm also kind of "seasonal" ie I lean more to white wines in the summer, reds in the winter, but generally I really don't have strong pref's to any one type and bounce around a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Spare me the Boones Farm jokes. Only a pompous loser bent on impressing others with their alleged knowledge thinks you have to spend a lot of money to buy good, even great wines. So....whacha got? For starters, you do need to spend more than $10 for great wines. Plain and simple. Good wines? There's a mountain of them for less that $10. For my money, you can't beat Argentina for over delivering for the money. Malbec, Cabernet, Merlot, Sauv Blanc, Chardonnay. They do good versions of all of them and range from $5-$6 for good enough to $10-$15 for pretty freaking tasty. As twiley said, there's a pinned thread above. Then again, what do I know, I'm just a pompous loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) For starters, you do need to spend more than $10 for great wines. Plain and simple. Your odds are better but no, you don't "need" to. Good wines? There's a mountain of them for less that $10. Yep For my money, you can't beat Argentina for over delivering for the money. Malbec, Cabernet, Merlot, Sauv Blanc, Chardonnay. They do good versions of all of them and range from $5-$6 for good enough to $10-$15 for pretty freaking tasty. Cool will check, thx As twiley said, there's a pinned thread above.Naturally I saw that after I made this thread Then again, what do I know, I'm just a pompous loser.Sorry to hear it. Don't worry though, there are a ton of them in the wine snobbery dept, you'll blend right in. Edited May 16, 2007 by BeeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Your odds are better but no, you don't "need" to. I suppose if your definition of "great" is actually "really good", then have at it. If your definition of "great" is the fact that some dude like Rbt Parker gave it a 93 or so, then have at it. However, if your definition of "great" follows the standard accepted notion that to be "great" you can't be common and must possess some degree of singularity, distinction, and inspiration then, no you are wrong. This is not your common sports website smack talking "you are wrong". This is, guy who tastes wine for a living and understands that there are plenty of tasty wines that don't cost much money and is not actually a wine "snob" telling a guy who likely does not taste wine for a living or he wouldn't be trolling the Huddle for wine recs "you are wrong". At any rate, check out Argentina, there's some great juice to be had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundaynfl Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) I suppose if your definition of "great" is actually "really good", then have at it. If your definition of "great" is the fact that some dude like Rbt Parker gave it a 93 or so, then have at it. However, if your definition of "great" follows the standard accepted notion that to be "great" you can't be common and must possess some degree of singularity, distinction, and inspiration then, no you are wrong. This is not your common sports website smack talking "you are wrong". This is, guy who tastes wine for a living and understands that there are plenty of tasty wines that don't cost much money and is not actually a wine "snob" telling a guy who likely does not taste wine for a living or he wouldn't be trolling the Huddle for wine recs "you are wrong". At any rate, check out Argentina, there's some great juice to be had. + 1 From another snob who used to taste, sell, consult, distribute and import wien... There are some good wiens to very good wiens that sell for around $10 but as Det said there are no great wiens for $10, if you are looking at a bottle of dessert wien a "very good" wien can be found around $10-15... An Oremus Tokaji late harvest 2002 is a wien that I would recommend, if you can find it! I think I bought it for $9.99 after my case discount. A more reasonable price for "very good" wiens would be below $20 where you can find many wiens that score in the 90-94 point range used by Wien Speculator and RP. IMHO... it's not a great idea to ask a group for advice and criticize that group in the same breath; unless you are int he Tailgate! Edited to add another good value wien: 2003 Biurko Rioja Graciano, I had this the other night and The WA rated it 89 points. It can be found HERE for $9.99. Spain is another great place to find some value wiens! Edited May 16, 2007 by sundaynfl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 HERE for $9.99. Spain is another great place to find some value wiens! +1 on the Spain call. Over delivers at all lower and middle price points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Check out the pinned wine thread if you haven't done so already. Why in the world is that pinned thread locked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Why in the world is that pinned thread locked? Because threads tend to stray from their original intent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 okay, I'm not hip. when did wine start getting spelled "wien?" or has it been that way for awhile. help me. I don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 okay, I'm not hip. when did wine start getting spelled "wien?" or has it been that way for awhile. help me. I don't understand. Actually, I'm afraid you understand better than you think and don't let anyone tell you differently. I think it's one of those cutesy insider things, yknow like going "+1" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 okay, I'm not hip. when did wine start getting spelled "wien?" or has it been that way for awhile. help me. I don't understand. It's just a german way of spelling wine, similar to whiskey and whisky. To each is their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Because threads tend to stray from their original intent. Intent? Intent? Well I intended to have a 10" dick and be a porn star. However, only one of those things happened, so I don't want to hear about intent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Intent? Intent? Well I intended to have a 10" dick and be a porn star. However, only one of those things happened, so I don't want to hear about intent. Which "movies" have you starred in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 IMHO... it's not a great idea to ask a group for advice and criticize that group in the same breath; unless you are int he Tailgate! I didn't criticize "this group" (whatever that means) - I criticized pompous loser wine snobs. If you align yourself in that category, that's your thing, not mien. PS what I consider "great wine" is a "wine that tastes great." A wine is IMO not great because Johnny Cheeseball gave it some hot wine rating. I'm not a sheeple (or whatever the current trendy word for that is). And no I don't profess to be a world-class expert, but neither am I a total wine ignoramus either. I'm just a guy who has had his share of wines of all types, prices, etc that loves wine but hates the unbelievable amount of pretentious BS that often accompanies it. And that also is not aimed at you or anyone here; it's a very general observation. To each their own... Well thanks for the suggestions, but for now I'm off to crack another box of Franzia with a Budweiser chaser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I didn't criticize "this group" (whatever that means) - I criticized pompous loser wine snobs. If you align yourself in that category, that's your thing, not mien. PS what I consider "great wine" is a "wine that tastes great." A wine is IMO not great because Johnny Cheeseball gave it some hot wine rating. I'm not a sheeple (or whatever the current trendy word for that is). And no I don't profess to be a world-class expert, but neither am I a total wine ignoramus either. I'm just a guy who has had his share of wines of all types, prices, etc that loves wine but hates the unbelievable amount of pretentious BS that often accompanies it. And that also is not aimed at you or anyone here; it's a very general observation. To each their own... Well thanks for the suggestions, but for now I'm off to crack another box of Franzia with a Budweiser chaser. budweiser sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 budweiser sucks. +120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 ...but neither am I a total wine ignoramus either. 50 bucks says that is a lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 50 bucks says that is a lie. az made me chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Because threads tend to stray from their original intent. then just delete the offending posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I didn't criticize "this group" (whatever that means) - I criticized pompous loser wine snobs. If you align yourself in that category, that's your thing, not mien. PS what I consider "great wine" is a "wine that tastes great." A wine is IMO not great because Johnny Cheeseball gave it some hot wine rating. I'm not a sheeple (or whatever the current trendy word for that is). And no I don't profess to be a world-class expert, but neither am I a total wine ignoramus either. I'm just a guy who has had his share of wines of all types, prices, etc that loves wine but hates the unbelievable amount of pretentious BS that often accompanies it. And that also is not aimed at you or anyone here; it's a very general observation. To each their own... Well thanks for the suggestions, but for now I'm off to crack another box of Franzia with a Budweiser chaser. yer just mad you don't know what tannins taste liek... neither do I... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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