muck Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 In alphbetical order, here are the teams that deserve a mention for the NC game, and pros and cons for each: Georgia -- heading into the weekend, was #4 in each poll, #5 in computer poll and #4 in BCS Pros: four ranked wins (11, 16, 18, 23), two were on the road Cons: two unranked losses (S.Carolina is 6-6; Tennessee is 9-4); didn't play for Conference title Kansas -- was #6 and #5t in each poll, #4 in the computers and #5 in the BCS Pros: only of three teams with 0 or 1 loss; one ranked win (24) Cons: didn't play for Conference title; lost to Missouri Hawaii -- was #10 in both polls, #14 in the computers and #12 in the BCS Pros: only undefeated team in Division I-A; one ranked win (19) Cons: poor strength of schedule Louisana State -- was #5 and #7 in the two polls, #7 in the computers and #7 in the BCS Pros: six ranked wins (9, 9, 12, 14, 17, 17); won the SEC; beat Virginia Tech by 41 points Cons: one unranked loss (Arkansas is 8-4) Missouri -- was #1 and #2 in the polls, #1 in the computers and #1 in the BCS Pros: three ranked wins (2, 24, 25); beat Kansas Cons: lost to Oklahoma twice (only two losses); lost Big 12 title Ohio State -- was #3 across the board Pros: only one of three teams with 0 or 1 loss; four ranked wins (21, 21, 23, 25); won the Big 10 title Cons: one unranked loss (Illinois is 9-3) Oklahoma -- was #8 in both polls, #12 in the computers and #9 in the BCS Pros: three ranked wins (1, 11, 19); won the Big 12; beat Missouri twice Cons: two unranked losses (Colorado is 6-6; Texas Tech is 8-4) Southern California -- was #9 in both polls, #10t in the computers and #8 in the BCS Pros: three ranked wins (6, 14, 24); won the PAC-10 Cons: one unranked loss (Stanford is 4-8) Virginia Tech -- was #7 and #5t in both polls, #6 in the computers and #6 in the BCS Pros: three ranked wins (11, 16, 22); two losses each were ranked #2 in the country at the time of the loss; avenged one of the two losses later on Cons: lost to LSU by 41 points West Virginia -- was #1 and #2 in the two polls, #2 in the computers and #2 in the BCS Pros: three ranked wins (20, 22, 25); won the Big East Cons: one unranked loss (Pittsburgh is 5-7) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted December 2, 2007 Author Share Posted December 2, 2007 If I were in charge of picking the two teams to play for the NC this year, I'd have to have a process of elimination. Q: Who lost to vastly inferior teams? A: USC lost to Stanford (4-8) and West Virginia lost to Pittsburgh (5-7) ... both are out of consideration; you can't be the NC if you lose to a bad Stanford team ...we're down to eight...Georgia, Kansas, Hawaii, Louisana State, Missouri, Ohio State, Oklahoma and Virginia Tech... Q: Who lost to more than one unranked team? A: Georgia and Oklahoma did. They're out of consideration; anyone can have an off-week against a good opponent, but the NC doesn't get to have two of them. Sorry fellas. ...we're down to six...Kansas, Hawaii, Louisana State, Missouri, Ohio State and Virginia Tech... Q: Did any of the remaining six lose to any of the original ten teams under consideration? A: Misouri lost to Oklahoma (twice), Kansas lost to Missouri and Virginia Tech lost to LSU. See ya MU, KU and VaTech. ...down to three...Hawaii, Louisana State and Ohio State... So for me, there are only three teams that haven't at one point or another shat the proverbial bed in route to trying to win a NC. If two of these three teams are playing, I'm fine with it. I'm really super extra fine with it if Hawaii is in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 (edited) Arkansas nor Kentucky are ranked now, so they obviously proved not to be worthy of being ranked over their body of work. Same goes for wins over S Carolina and Alabama. So in essence, LSU beat 4 ranked teams this yr, and lost 2 to unranked teams, one on the road just last week to Arkansas. And when you lose at home in the last week game of the regularseason, as the #1 team, and are defeated not once but twice as #1, shame on you. You do not deserve yet another chance. That is called shiating the bed in my book. Sorry, LSU doesnt deserve to get in. Plus the idiot their HC seems to be, competence should count for something. Edited December 2, 2007 by Sgt. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 With your logic, LSU should not be in the title game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Miscreant Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I like the break down with the pros and cons provided in the initial post but I do have one issue that Sgt. Ryan already touched on. If you're going to include the rankings of the opponents that each team beat or lost to then they should be current rankings, not what they were ranked when they played. As for who should be playing in the NC game... I don't like them and I'm not impressed by them but OSU should be a no-brainer simply because they won the Big 10 (down or not) and their damage control (avoiding losses) was clearly better than the other teams with BCS schedules. For their opponent I could make an argument for just about every other team in the top 10 so I won't even bother. I am a huge college football fan and would've loved to see Mizzou/WVU contrary to how many others felt about the lack of true football powers being in the big game. I would've even enjoyed WVU/Mizzou vs OSU. Unfortunately, the football snobs er... fans of college football royalty got their wish and two "big time" programs will be playing for the NC. I gotta tell ya though, I'm not excited about it because the NC game will now be no more significant than any other bowl game. It may present two very good teams and a very good game but beyond that the current situation renders it pretty much meaningless. The real crime in all this is the fact that the powers that be will take all of the debate over who's most deserving and say that this is great for college football. Just look at all the attention this mess will garner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Ohio State -- was #3 across the boardPros: only one of three teams with 0 or 1 loss; four ranked wins (21, 21, 23, 25); won the Big 10 title Cons: one unranked loss (Illinois is 9-3) Illinois is ranked #17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Louisana State -- was #5 and #7 in the two polls, #7 in the computers and #7 in the BCSPros: six ranked wins (9, 9, 12, 14, 17, 17); won the SEC; beat Virginia Tech by 41 points Cons: one unranked loss (Arkansas is 8-4) Correction. LSU lost to TWO unranked teams. If your going to put out this misinformation, then why not say the Bucks beat #2 Michigan, since Michigan was ranked there at one point in the season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Q: Who lost to more than one unranked team?A: Georgia and Oklahoma did. They're out of consideration; anyone can have an off-week against a good opponent, but the NC doesn't get to have two of them. Sorry fellas. ...we're down to six...Kansas, Hawaii, Louisana State, Missouri, Ohio State and Virginia Tech... LSU did as well, so there goes LSU using your formula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilfish2 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 If your going to put out this misinformation, then why not say the Bucks beat #2 Michigan, since Michigan was ranked there at one point in the season ? But, they weren't ranked #2 when OSU played them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonkis Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Correction. LSU lost to TWO unranked teams.If your going to put out this misinformation, then why not say the Bucks beat #2 Michigan, since Michigan was ranked there at one point in the season ? I think was Michigan was 5 early on, but we all knew this was a rebuilding year for UofM... what with all the returning seniors I pray for a Bowl victory for the Wolverines.. My vote for NC game? OSU (great pain to write that) and OU. Would be good football with Boekman a 23 year old senior and Bradford a 18 or 19 year old red-shirt. Would love to see OU put 200+ yards on the ground agaisnt OSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Should be OU. Will be LSU. My opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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