H8tank Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Coming out of retirement, PPV May 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Face Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Royce is gonna get hurt again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Royce will win. I will put reasonable money on it. He has been active and recently beat a behemoth of a man in Japan. I'm pretty up to date on UFC and Royce is just relentless in his ground game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 So that was the announcement last night? How old is Gracie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 He was the man, like XCVII's UFCs ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 1) Are there going to be special rules? 2) Will they let him wear the gi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhippens Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 i'm interested to see how all of this is going to pan out. should make for some good discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSab Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 He must be older than dirt, by now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Little Bit Special Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 So that was the announcement last night? 1270810[/snapback] Yes, at one point I thought I was going to break my TV if I heard "an historic announcement" one more time. The fight should be intriguing though. Hughes' freakish strength vs Gracie's experience. I would never bet against Royce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 So that was the announcement last night? How old is Gracie? 1270810[/snapback] I think Gracie is around 38 or so. 1) Are there going to be special rules? 2) Will they let him wear the gi? 1270929[/snapback] No special rules, just the rules in the UFC nowadays. I doubt Royce will be wearing a gi as he has gotten away from that. He beat a 600lb dude in Japan a few months back as Royce hasn't exactly been retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Face Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 I thought Royce was in his 40s. I'll check........ .... .....40 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 Has Royce ever lost? I know he was never beaten in the Octagon. He looked good though, Hughes is an excellent wrestler and a great puncher, but Royce, you just can't bet against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Has Royce ever lost? I know he was never beaten in the Octagon. He looked good though, Hughes is an excellent wrestler and a great puncher, but Royce, you just can't bet against him. 1271653[/snapback] I thought he was beaten by Shamrock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Little Bit Special Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 (edited) I thought he was beaten by Shamrock? 1271718[/snapback] He's 39 and has a record of 13-1-2 (from UFC website so maybe UFC only record). Can't seem to find what fight that one loss was though. Edited January 17, 2006 by A Little Bit Special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 He's 39 and has a record of 13-1-2 (from UFC website so maybe UFC only record). Can't seem to find what fight that one loss was though. 1271748[/snapback] A Japanese guy beat him and a couple of Gracie's brothers. They started calling him the Gracie Slayer or somesuch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 A Japanese guy beat him and a couple of Gracie's brothers. They started calling him the Gracie Slayer or somesuch. 1271759[/snapback] Supposedly it was an epic bout as well from what I've read. In Royce's announcement, Royce said "This is my house, I built it!" Sweet. I can't wait until May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 He's 39 and has a record of 13-1-2 (from UFC website so maybe UFC only record). Can't seem to find what fight that one loss was though. 1271748[/snapback] man. Wow - I kind of remember Shamrock fighting Gracie and somebody from his corner throwing in the towel for him. I guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 man. Wow - I kind of remember Shamrock fighting Gracie and somebody from his corner throwing in the towel for him. I guess not. 1272183[/snapback] Royce beat him with a heel hook the first time they fought, if memory serves me. The second time, it was 35 minutes (again, if memory serves) and was declared a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seattle LawDawg Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 IMO, this could be a very boring fight. Hughes will dominate standing up but will still go for the takedown. I don't see H®oyce shooting on Hughes but it will get to the ground. On the ground, Royce can control quite a bit but Hughes will sprawl & brawl. In strict submission, Royce would win but he's going to try to take Hughes into his guard and Hughes doesn't care where he strikes from as long as he is on top. Royce will cover well and any mistake Hughes makes will be exploited so Hughes will stay tight and not take many chances. There is a rumor going around the NW fight scene that Royce may fly Dennis Hallman down to train with. (Hallman has beaten Hughes twice). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 Royce has been fighting a bunch of japs right? And japs, besides being fast, are most all standup? So Royce should have a braoder skill set than he had 15 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 Kazushi Sakuraba "The Gracie Hunter" apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Sakuraba's fight against Royce, the second in the encounter with the Gracies, lasted 90 minutes, ending only when Royce's corner threw in the towel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Good God...90 minutes? Hughes and his UFC 5 5-minute rounds is gonna be in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seattle LawDawg Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Good God...90 minutes? Hughes and his UFC 5 5-minute rounds is gonna be in trouble. 1272486[/snapback] If Royce gets on the ground in control, he defends as well as anyone and will control until a mistake is made. That type of fight can go on and on and on and on. Try to find film of Jeff Monsen in the annual Abu Dhabi tournament. Jeff is incredibly strong and just doesn't allow his opponents any movement once on the ground. Boring fights to watch. Two of my NHB losses came vs a former wrestler who was very good on the mat. He never submit me or did any damage to me but he completely kept me from making any offensive move until time expired and he won the decisions. Not exciting fights but effective. There is generally a feud between JJ practitioners and wrestlers...there are great fighters from both sides. In those fights though, he just locked me up, or remained covered tight enough that I couldn't do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 If Royce gets on the ground in control, he defends as well as anyone and will control until a mistake is made. That type of fight can go on and on and on and on. Try to find film of Jeff Monsen in the annual Abu Dhabi tournament. Jeff is incredibly strong and just doesn't allow his opponents any movement once on the ground. Boring fights to watch. Two of my NHB losses came vs a former wrestler who was very good on the mat. He never submit me or did any damage to me but he completely kept me from making any offensive move until time expired and he won the decisions. Not exciting fights but effective. There is generally a feud between JJ practitioners and wrestlers...there are great fighters from both sides. In those fights though, he just locked me up, or remained covered tight enough that I couldn't do anything. 1272495[/snapback] Jeff will be in UFC 57 in February! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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