Azazello1313 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 machida's training with..... ! that's like matt damon training CIA agents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 (edited) machida's training with.....! that's like matt damon training CIA agents not really a good analogy...from wiki about SS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Seagal A 7th-dan black belt in aikido, Seagal began his adult life as an aikido instructor in Japan. He became the first foreigner to operate an aikido dojo in Japan and evidently Machida isn't his 1st MMA figher, Seagal, currently a 7th dan degree and Shihan in aikido, moved to Japan in his late teens and became the first foreigner to operate an aikido dojo in Japan. He was trained by Harry Ishisaka and received 1st dan degree or Shodan under the direction of Kochi Tohei. He continued to train in aikido as a student of Seiseki Abe, Koichi Tohei (to whose aikido organization, Ki Society, Seagal refused to join in favor of staying with the Aikikai), Kisaburo Osawa, Hiroshi Isoyama and the second doshu Kisshomaru Ueshiba. When Miyako's father retired from his job as an instructor, Seagal became the new head of the organization known as Tenshin Aikido (affiliated with the Aikikai). Seagal is known by his students as Take Sensei. Seagal initially returned to Taos, New Mexico, with his student—and later a film stuntman—Craig Dunn. There, they opened a dojo, but Seagal spent much of his time pursuing other ventures. After another period in Japan, Seagal returned to the U.S. in 1983 with senior student Haruo Matsuoka. They opened an aikido dojo, initially in Burbank, California, but later moved it to the city of West Hollywood. Seagal left Matsuoka in charge of the dojo, which he ran until the two parted ways in 1997. He currently trains three students: Craig Dunn, Elliot Freeman, and Jorge Angulo.[citation needed] Initially, he worked as the martial arts coordinator for the films The Challenge (1982) starring Scott Glenn and Toshirô Mifune, and Never Say Never Again (1983) starring Sean Connery and A View to a Kill. He later helped train UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva and was in his corner at UFC 117 in August 2010. They were seen bowing to each other just before the fight.[8] Edited November 16, 2010 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Helped train Silva? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 (edited) Seagal and Silva Aikido practitioners who’ve successfully transitioned to the world of Mixed Martial Arts include [citation needed]. lol Edited November 16, 2010 by Furd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Aikido is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Aikido is a joke. Sounds like someone has taken 2 years or less in BJJ or Judo. Every martial art has it's merits. And yes, Segal could break you in half in a few seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Sounds like someone has taken 2 years or less in BJJ or Judo. Every martial art has it's merits. And yes, Segal could break you in half in a few seconds. Seagal is old and fat - I got the big Arkansas hick by ground and pound in the first....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Sounds like someone has taken 2 years or less in BJJ or Judo. Every martial art has it's merits. And yes, Segal could break you in half in a few seconds. Who wins world's greatest Aikido fighter vs. BJ Penn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 (edited) Who wins world's greatest Aikido fighter vs. BJ Penn? Can the Akido guy only use Akido? Can BJ Penn use grappling and boxing? Is this a grappling match? Standup? BJ Penn is not a Jiu Jitsu guy. He has world class jits, but he rarely uses it. If it's an MMA match, Penn wins. If it's a style specific match then it depends. And the greatest at Akido Vs Penn means nothing. You're not elite, so I'm certain that an above average Akido practicioner would have his way with you. Two years doesn't make you anything other than a novice. Edited December 7, 2010 by piratesownninjas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Sounds like someone has taken 2 years or less in BJJ or Judo. Every martial art has it's merits. And yes, Segal could break you in half in a few seconds. Any time, any place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Can the Akido guy only use Akido? Can BJ Penn use grappling and boxing? Is this a grappling match? Standup? BJ Penn is not a Jiu Jitsu guy. He has world class jits, but he rarely uses it. If it's an MMA match, Penn wins. If it's a style specific match then it depends. And the greatest at Akido Vs Penn means nothing. You're not elite, so I'm certain that an above average Akido practicioner would have his way with you. Two years doesn't make you anything other than a novice. When did I say I was a BJJ expert ? If Aikido was good stuff you would see it in the UFC. So can the ghey rage noob and get back to your self-loathing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 8, 2010 Author Share Posted December 8, 2010 You're not elite, so I'm certain that an above average Akido practicioner would have his way with you. from the way you're defending him, I'm thinking steven seagal could have his way with you after just a couple glasses of white zin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Aikido doesn't translate well for combat sports. Practioners don't compete, let alone fight or even practice with a resisting opponent. A good practioner can bust up your limbs like matchsticks though. And you wouldn't want to fight the guy at the edge of a cliff, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 When did I say I was a BJJ expert ? If Aikido was good stuff you would see it in the UFC. So can the ghey rage noob and get back to your self-loathing. Because I see guys like you all the time in the gym. They start training a few times a week, eventually tap a few guys, then get militant to other forms of martial arts. As far as seeing Akido in the UFC... The most dominant martial art in MMA is wrestling. Wrestling isn't violent or painful, but scoring a takedown and keeping them on the ground gets you a victory every time. MMA isn't about figuring out which martial art is the best. You don't see Krav Maga in MMA, but it's good enough for the Israili special forces... Is it not in the UFC because it's not "good stuff"? Besides, at the level those guys are at, they don't have just one thing. Everyone cross trains. from the way you're defending him, I'm thinking steven seagal could have his way with you after just a couple glasses of white zin. You got me again. Believe it or not, I don't own any Segal movies, nor have I ever had a single Akido lesson. But I do know how to respect all of the arts as they all have something to offer. It's about respect for something that I've followed for years and years, then see these affliction wearing morans get into and have no idea of the history of this whole thing. Aikido doesn't translate well for combat sports. Practioners don't compete, let alone fight or even practice with a resisting opponent. A good practioner can bust up your limbs like matchsticks though. And you wouldn't want to fight the guy at the edge of a cliff, for example. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Sounds like someone has taken 2 years or less in BJJ or Judo. Every martial art has it's merits. And yes, Segal could break you in half in a few seconds. I would roundhouse Seagal so fast his fat head would literally pop off his scrawny shoulders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I would roundhouse Seagal so fast his fat head would literally pop off his scrawny shoulders Only if you're a bartender who is forced into action. Swayze FTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Because I see guys like you all the time in the gym. They start training a few times a week, eventually tap a few guys, then get militant to other forms of martial arts. As far as seeing Akido in the UFC... The most dominant martial art in MMA is wrestling. Wrestling isn't violent or painful, but scoring a takedown and keeping them on the ground gets you a victory every time. MMA isn't about figuring out which martial art is the best. You don't see Krav Maga in MMA, but it's good enough for the Israili special forces... Is it not in the UFC because it's not "good stuff"? Besides, at the level those guys are at, they don't have just one thing. Everyone cross trains. You got me again. Believe it or not, I don't own any Segal movies, nor have I ever had a single Akido lesson. But I do know how to respect all of the arts as they all have something to offer. It's about respect for something that I've followed for years and years, then see these affliction wearing morans get into and have no idea of the history of this whole thing. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 What? No trash talking about Bas not knowing anything about MMA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrumjuice Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 The most dominant martial art in MMA is wrestling. Wrestling isn't violent or painful, but scoring a takedown and keeping them on the ground gets you a victory every time. NTOY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 NTOY!!!! Wrestling uses no striking, very few subs, and is about control. It's not about inflicting damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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