irish Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) Will post or link when I find one or at least someone will once they read this. Edited February 18, 2008 by irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Of S&B Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 From PFT POSTED 4:01 p.m. EST, February 18, 2008 BEARS BOUNCE MOOSE In a move that could bring the team a step closer to reuniting with receiver Marty Booker, the Bears have cut veteran wideout Muhsin Muhammad, according to Adam Schefter of NFL Network. Muhammad was under contract through 2010, and was due to earn a base salary of $1.6 million in 2008. Schefter also reports that the Bears are expected to release two other veteran players on Monday. Muhammad was a second-round pick of the Panthers in 1996, and he spent nine seasons in Carolina. The Panthers released him in February 2005 in lieu of paying a $10 million roster bonus. Less than 12 hours later (could it be . . . tampering?), he signed a six-year, $30 million deal with the Bears. With the Panthers still scrambling to find help at the wideout position, we don't rule out a return by Muhammad to Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Should mean that they will re-sign Berrian. Muhammad hit the wall a couple of years ago. Other than his glorious one season for CAR, he was always just an average possession receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 Should mean that they will re-sign Berrian. Muhammad hit the wall a couple of years ago. Other than his glorious one season for CAR, he was always just an average possession receiver. Well said and that one very solid season bought him several more at a higher pay check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Good. This team needs to get younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BumpNRun Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 I believe his numbers have slipped every year so far..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Muhammad was never lightning-fast to begin with, but he really had trouble getting open this past season. I was never sure if that was due to a lingering injury or Father Time. Good move by the Bears, who were forced to over-pay for him when they were desperate for WR talent a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Muhammad was never lightning-fast to begin with, but he really had trouble getting open this past season. I was never sure if that was due to a lingering injury or Father Time. Good move by the Bears, who were forced to over-pay for him when they were desperate for WR talent a few years back. +1. He also dropped way too many passes when Orton was at QB, which didn't exactly help an offensively-challenged team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Muhammad is turning 35 - he may not land a job with any team, at least not a starting one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Also- Bears released RT Fred Miller. Miller was a solid pass protector during Chicago's 2006 Super Bowl run, but his play fell off considerably last season. At 35, he won't be viewed as a starter by other teams and may retire. John St. Clair is next on the depth chart at right tackle, but the Bears will look to upgrade in free agency and the draft. Source: Chicago Sun Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 John St. Clair is next on the depth chart at right tackle, but the Bears will look to upgrade in free agency and the draft. Another smart move by them. St. Clair was awful when he was on the Rams. I'm surprised that he's still in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 (edited) Yet another- Bears declined to exercise DT Darwin Walker's option for 2008, making him an unrestricted free agent. The option was for $5.2 million. Walker, 30, dealt with injuries in 2007 and only produced one sack, although he often had to occupy blockers as a nose with Dusty Dvoracek on I.R. Walker's strength is rushing the passer. Bears DE Alex Brown's two-year extension included $5 million up front. This will keep Brown from requesting anymore trades and give him the edge over Mark Anderson to start. Anderson worked much better as a pass rush specialist during the Bears' 2006 Super Bowl run, with Brown excelling on early downs. Source: Chicago Sun Times Edited February 19, 2008 by Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Yet another- Bears declined to exercise DT Darwin Walker's option for 2008, making him an unrestricted free agent. The option was for $5.2 million. Walker, 30, dealt with injuries in 2007 and only produced one sack, although he often had to occupy blockers as a nose with Dusty Dvoracek on I.R. Walker's strength is rushing the passer. Bears DE Alex Brown's two-year extension included $5 million up front. This will keep Brown from requesting anymore trades and give him the edge over Mark Anderson to start. Anderson worked much better as a pass rush specialist during the Bears' 2006 Super Bowl run, with Brown excelling on early downs. Source: Chicago Sun Times Well, don't forget that OGun maintains a heft price tag despite having a really solid year in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 It is NOT a given that Berrian will be a Bear next season. He wants top ten money and the Bears are looking like if they sign him, it will be with a franchise tag. For as good a person and leader Moose was, he needed to be cut. Very happy to see that something many fans wanted to see happen did happen. Let's see what else happens with the offense this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 It is NOT a given that Berrian will be a Bear next season. He wants top ten money Most people would say it's ridiculous that he wants top 10 money. But is it? If Berrian was on a team with a good OL and very good QB, he'd likely actually be a top 10 WR. Consider how he'd do in NE, for example, if Moss leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Most people would say it's ridiculous that he wants top 10 money. But is it? If Berrian was on a team with a good OL and very good QB, he'd likely actually be a top 10 WR. Consider how he'd do in NE, for example, if Moss leaves. Randy Moss, Chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Tory Holt, Anquan Boldin, Larry Fizgerald, T.J. Houshmanzadeh, Roy Williams, Steve Smith, Hines Ward, Andre Johnson, Terrell Ownes, Marques Colston, Donald Driver, Santana Moss, Lee Evans, Derrick Mason. For starters. Is he better than any of those 18 guys? I'm not hating, but let's have a little perspective. He dropped a LOT of balls last year. Now, he MIGHT be worth that $ to the Bears for one year, since they've left themselves with no alternatives if he walks - but that's mismanagement at that position on Angelo's part more than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Good post Pope, hope all is well. I agree with what you said. Bears have till 3pm local time to designate him as the franchise tag player. I feel they will. Ruben Brown is also out now. Bears down two offensive linemen. Hopefully they sign someone via free agency and draft a solid guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Randy Moss, Chad Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Tory Holt, Anquan Boldin, Larry Fizgerald, T.J. Houshmanzadeh, Roy Williams, Steve Smith, Hines Ward, Andre Johnson, Terrell Ownes, Marques Colston, Donald Driver, Santana Moss, Lee Evans, Derrick Mason. For starters. Is he better than any of those 18 guys? I'm not hating, but let's have a little perspective. He dropped a LOT of balls last year. Now, he MIGHT be worth that $ to the Bears for one year, since they've left themselves with no alternatives if he walks - but that's mismanagement at that position on Angelo's part more than anything. Without getting in to the specific merits of your list, which is well put together, I'd be disinclined to count Mason and maybe Houshmandzadeh and Evans as better than Berrian given a level playing field. My point wasn't how good IS he, my point was how good would he be with a decent QB? Most, but not all, of the guys above have good to great QBs throwing the ball for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 He dropped a LOT of balls last year. And I remember reading that the Bears coaching staff blamed his poor route running for several Grossman INTs last season. It will be interesting to see what he's got with another team if he leaves. Maybe he's Brandon Lloyd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky08 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 And I remember reading that the Bears coaching staff blamed his poor route running for several Grossman INTs last season. It will be interesting to see what he's got with another team if he leaves. Maybe he's Brandon Lloyd? LOL that might be ttue, but hey maybe hes just not cut out for the #1 spot at WR, i mean like every one is saying he did have a great year at CAR but was he not the #2 option, Im not backing him up or anything cause i would not pick him up for myself but lets just see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Word is the Moose is going back to the Panthers. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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