Poker Hand for Discussion

[Big Country]

I can't really argue too much with your reasoning, since you didn't quite realize yet that he was an overly aggressive pusher. If this hand happens a half hour later, I assume you're calling?

 

I go back to my point earlier, however. You said you had been tight, and had decided to change it up a bit by playing the 52 in the first place. Beside flopping a straight or a flush (which could be out-drawn anyway), what more were you hoping to see than an A22 board? To me, that's the ideal flop for playing that hand. Limpers often are playing their medium aces because they can't lay hands down. Even if it was a big Ace, you're still way ahead. It's like flopping bottom set. It is very easily disguised, and pays off most of the time, often against top pair/top kicker. In a situation like you faced, I call, if for nothing else than to show your change up. Even if he had the straight, or a boat, you show down a 52, and the next time you lead out at a dangerous board like that, it will be remembered. But that's just me.

 

You made your money by using the lay down to your advantage, but I would have rather the table see my 52 then to see me make that lay down. The problem is with having a rep of being able to be run over, you need to have the cards at the right time to take advantage of it. If you call there and show you can play rags, you can make moves by bluffing later and get paid without having the cards to back it up.

 

Pat -

 

In retrospect I 100% agree with your original post and your comments in the quoted post. This was the exact flop I had wanted to see. I just over thought the situation when facing the major overbet on the turn, and gave more credit to the few hands that beat me than I would have had I had an extra few rounds with the player in question. A very conservative play to say the least.

 

And yes, had this hand happened 30 minutes later, my money would have been in there faster than his.

[Bring Back Pat!!!]

Pat -

 

In retrospect I 100% agree with your original post and your comments in the quoted post. This was the exact flop I had wanted to see. I just over thought the situation when facing the major overbet on the turn, and gave more credit to the few hands that beat me than I would have had I had an extra few rounds with the player in question. A very conservative play to say the least.

 

And yes, had this hand happened 30 minutes later, my money would have been in there faster than his.

 

 

I'm not criticizing by any means. I'm the one who got murdered here last year for saying I laid down Aces pre-flop in a tournament on the bubble of getting paid, so I know conservative play.

[i_am_the_swammi]

I'm not criticizing by any means. I'm the one who got murdered here last year for saying I laid down Aces pre-flop in a tournament on the bubble of getting paid, so I know conservative play.

 

 

I must have missed that thread....or did i murder you too?

[Bring Back Pat!!!]

 

I must have missed that thread....or did i murder you too?

 

 

I don't remember who killed me on that one. I was a spot or two from the money, and had been grinding quite a bit to get to that point, and really wanted to get paid. There were two all-ins in front of me, both had me covered and one or two other stacks behind that I thought might call as well. I didn't feel I had a shot against so many other players. I knew I was still the favorite against any single other player, but against a few other callers (turned out nobody else called) I didn't like the spot. 55% would be better than any other players odds, but still only 55% to win if up against three or four unpaired (AK, 10J, KQ) hands, something like that.

 

Turned out I was right and wrong. the hands they had were exactly the hands I would have hoped for, KK and QQ, as opposed to the others, but I would have lost to the QQ on either turn or river, don't remember.

 

Looking back, I may have been too focused on getting in the money. I've never done it since, and probably never would. And I didn't show or tell anyone so it didn't impact their play. I can't remember, but I think I final tabled, but went out between 5-8 or so.

[darin3]

BC I think you know my response.

[zmanzzzz]

BC I think you know my response.

 

did his opponent have curly hair?