Scooby Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 so, I'll be getting a new car in a few months and found the following info: http://www.leaseguide.com/leasekit/profits.cfm doing my homework now to avoid hassles later, hopefully yall can read the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 so, I'll be getting a new car in a few months and found the following info: http://www.leaseguide.com/leasekit/profits.cfm doing my homework now to avoid hassles later, hopefully yall can read the above Doesn't seem to be working. I get this- Lease Kit Registration Please enter your Lease Kit registration code: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 6% or less 7% - 8% 9% - 10% 11% - 12% 13% or more Audi A8 6% Chevrolet Aveo 6% Chevrolet Cobalt 6% Chevrolet Colorado 5% Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid 6% Chrysler PT Cruiser 6% Dodge Caliber 6% Dodge Caravan 6% Dodge Grand Caravan 6% Dodge Nitro 6% Ford Edge 6% Honda Fit 4% Hyundai Accent 6% Hyundai Entourage 6% Hyundai Genesis 6% Hyundai Santa Fe 6% Hyundai Tucson 6% Isuzu Ascender 6% Isuzu I-290 6% Isuzu I-370 6% Jeep Compass 6% Jeep Liberty 6% Kia Borrego 6% Kia Rio 5% Kia Rondo 6% Kia Sorento 5% Kia Sportage 5% Mazda CX-7 6% Mazda Mazda3 6% Mazda Mazda5 6% Mazda Mazdaspeed Mazda3 6% Mazda Tribute 6% Mercury Mariner Hybrid 6% Mitsubishi Eclipse 5% Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder 5% Mitsubishi Endeavor 6% Mitsubishi Galant 6% Mitsubishi Lancer 5% Mitsubishi Outlander 6% Mitsubishi Raider 6% Nissan Altima 6% Nissan Altima Hybrid 6% Nissan Frontier 6% Nissan GT-R 6% Nissan Rogue 5% Nissan Versa 4% Nissan Xterra 5% Pontiac G5 6% Pontiac G8 5% Pontiac Solstice 6% Pontiac Vibe 5% Saab 9-3 Series 6% Saab 9-5 Series 6% Saturn Astra 6% Saturn Aura 6% Saturn Outlook 5% Saturn Vue Hybrid 6% Scion tC 5% Scion xB 5% Scion xD 4% Suzuki Forenza 4% Suzuki Grand Vitara 4% Suzuki Reno 4% Suzuki SX4 4% Suzuki XL-7 4% Toyota Yaris 6% Volkswagen New Beetle Conv. 6% Volkswagen New Beetle Coupe 6% Volkswagen R32 5% Volkswagen Rabbit 4% Volkswagen Routan 6% Volvo C30 6% Volvo C70 6% Volvo S40 6% Volvo S60 6% Volvo S80 6% Volvo V50 6% Volvo V70 6% Volvo XC70 6% Volvo XC90 6% Audi A3 7% Audi A4 7% Audi A5 7% Audi R8 7% Audi S5 7% Buick Enclave 7% Cadillac DTS 7% Cadillac Escalade ESV 7% Cadillac Escalade EXT 7% Cadillac Escalade Hybrid 7% Chevrolet Equinox 7% Chevrolet HHR 7% Chevrolet Malibu 7% Chevrolet MonteCarlo 7% Chevrolet Traverse 7% Chrysler 300 7% Chrysler Crossfire 7% Chrysler Sebring 7% Dodge Avenger 7% Dodge Challenger 7% Dodge Journey 7% Dodge Magnum 7% Ford Escape 7% Ford Escape Hybrid 7% Ford Flex 7% Ford Focus 7% GMC Acadia 7% Honda Insight 7% Hyundai Veracruz 7% Jeep Patriot 7% Jeep Wrangler 7% Kia Optima 7% Kia Spectra 7% Mercedes C-Class 7% Mercedes CL550 7% Mercedes CL600 7% Mercedes CL63 AMG 7% Mercedes CLK63 AMG 7% Mercedes CLK-Class 7% Mercedes CLS63 AMG 7% Mercedes CLS-Class 7% Mercedes E63 AMG 7% Mercedes E-Class 7% Mercedes G55 AMG 7% Mercedes G-Class 7% Mercedes GL-Class 7% Mercedes GLK Class 7% Mercedes M-Class 7% Mercedes R-Class 7% Mercedes S65 AMG 7% Mercedes S-Class 7% Mercedes SL65 AMG 7% Mercedes SL-Class 7% Mercedes SLK55 AMG 7% Mercedes SLK-Class 7% Mercedes SLR McLaren 7% Mercury Mariner 7% Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 7% Nissan Sentra 7% Pontiac G6 7% Pontiac Grand Prix 7% Pontiac Torrent 7% Subaru Forester 7% Subaru Impreza 7% Subaru Impreza WRX 7% Subaru Tribeca 7% Toyota RAV4 7% Volkswagen CC 7% Volkswagen GLI 7% Volkswagen Jetta 7% Volkswagen Tiguan 7% Acura MDX 10% Acura RDX 9% Acura TL 9% Acura TSX 9% Audi A6 8% Audi Q7 8% Audi RS4 8% Audi S4 8% Audi S6 8% Audi S8 9% Audi TT 8% BMW 1 Series 8% BMW 3 Series 8% BMW 5 Series 9% BMW 6 Series 9% BMW 7 Series 9% BMW Alpina B7 8% BMW M 8% BMW M3 8% BMW M5 9% BMW M6 8% BMW X3 9% BMW X5 9% BMW X6 8% BMW Z4 8% Buick LaCrosse 9% Buick Lucerne 8% Buick Rainier 8% Buick Rendezvous 9% Buick Terraza 8% Cadillac CTS 8% Cadillac Escalade 8% Cadillac SRX 8% Cadillac STS 8% Cadillac XLR 8% Chevrolet Corvette Z06 10% Chevrolet Impala 8% Chevrolet Silverado Hybrid 9% Chevrolet Suburban 10% Chevrolet Tahoe 10% Chevrolet Trailblazer 9% Chevrolet Uplander 9% Chrysler Aspen 8% Chrysler Pacifica 8% Chrysler Town & Country 8% Dodge Charger 8% Dodge Dakota 9% Dodge Durango 9% Dodge Viper 9% Ford Crown Victoria 8% Ford Explorer 9% Ford Explorer Sport Trac 10% Ford F150 8% Ford F250 8% Ford F350 8% Ford F450 8% Ford Five Hundred 8% Ford Freestar 8% Ford Freestyle 8% Ford Fusion 8% Ford Mustang 8% Ford Ranger 8% Ford Shelby GT500 10% Ford Taurus 8% Ford Taurus X 8% GMC Canyon 9% GMC Envoy 8% GMC Envoy Denali 9% GMC Savana 9% GMC Sierra 2500 8% GMC Sierra 3500 8% GMC Sierra Hybrid 9% GMC Yukon 10% GMC Yukon Denali 8% GMC Yukon XL 9% GMC Yukon XL Denali 8% Honda Accord 10% Honda Civic 9% Honda Civic Hybrid 9% Honda CR-V 8% Honda Element 8% Honda Odyssey 10% Honda Pilot 10% Honda Ridgeline 10% Honda S2000 10% Hummer H2 8% Hummer H3 8% Hyundai Azera 10% Hyundai Elantra 8% Hyundai Sonata 8% Hyundai Tiburon 8% Infiniti EX35 8% Infiniti FX35 8% Infiniti FX50 8% Infiniti G35 8% Infiniti G37 8% Infiniti M35 8% Infiniti M45 8% Infiniti QX56 8% Jaguar S Type R 9% Jaguar Vanden Plas 9% Jaguar X Type 9% Jaguar XF 9% Jaguar XJ Series 9% Jaguar XJR 9% Jaguar XK Series 9% Jaguar XKR 9% Jeep Commander 8% Jeep Grand Cherokee 8% Kia Amanti 9% Kia Sedona 8% Land Rover LR2 9% Land Rover LR3 9% Land Rover Range Rover 9% Land Rover Range Rover Sport 9% Lincoln MKS 8% Lincoln MKX 8% Lincoln MKZ 8% Lincoln Navigator 10% Lincoln Town Car 8% Mazda CX-9 8% Mazda Mazda6 8% Mazda Mazdaspeed Mazda6 8% Mazda MX-5 Miata 8% Mazda Pickup 8% Mazda RX-8 8% Mercury Grand Marquis 8% Mercury Milan 8% Mercury Montego 8% Mercury Monterey 8% Mercury Mountaineer 9% Mercury Sable 8% Mini Cooper 10% Nissan 350Z 8% Nissan Armada 9% Nissan Maxima 9% Nissan Murano 8% Nissan Pathfinder 8% Nissan Quest 9% Nissan Titan 10% Saab 9-7X 8% Saturn Sky 8% Saturn Vue 8% Subaru Legacy 8% Subaru Outback 8% Toyota Camry Hybrid 10% Toyota Camry Solara 10% Toyota Corolla 10% Toyota FJ Cruiser 9% Toyota Highlander Hybrid 10% Toyota Matrix 8% Toyota Prius Hybrid 8% Toyota Sienna 10% Toyota Tacoma 8% Toyota Tundra 9% Toyota Venza 10% Volkswagen Eos 8% Volkswagen GTI 9% Volkswagen Passat 8% Volkswagen Touareg 9% Acura RL 11% Chevrolet Avalanche 11% Chevrolet Corvette 12% Chevrolet Silverado 12% Dodge Ram 12% Ford Econoline 11% Ford Expedition 11% GMC Sierra 1500 11% Lexus ES350 11% Lexus GS350 12% Lexus GS450h 12% Lexus IS F 12% Lexus IS250 12% Lexus IS350 12% Lexus RX350 12% Lexus RX400h 11% Lincoln Mark LT 12% Toyota 4Runner 11% Toyota Avalon 12% Toyota Camry 11% Toyota Highlander 11% Toyota Sequoia 11% Lexus GS430 13% Lexus GS460 13% Lexus GX470 13% Lexus GX570 13% Lexus LS460 13% Lexus LS600h L 13% Lexus LX570 13% Lexus SC430 13% Porsche 911 Carrera 13% Porsche 911 GT3 13% Porsche 911 Turbo 13% Porsche Boxster 13% Porsche Cayenne 13% Porsche Cayman 13% Toyota Land Cruiser 13% ok, so here's a cut and paste, exhaustive list, but alphabetical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) So basically this is telling us that Suzuki's and or business for Suzuki is terrible and Lexus, Porsche and Toyota are great. Yes? Edited February 25, 2009 by irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Those numbers seem reasonably accurate. That's how much MSRP is over dealer cost. This just gives you a ball park estimate as to how much negotiating room you will have on any given car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) I couldn't get to the link, but wonder when those numbers were issued. I bought a used truck a few months ago and it was listed for $14,000. I offered $11,000 and they took it. I'm thinking a nice 20% off was a good deal. I had watched the truck for about a month and they couldn't sell it. I went in at month-end and was will willing to walk out without a second thought. It was a full-size Chevy truck with 30,000 miles and the remainder of warranty without a ton of options (just wanted something to simply haul stuff around). I think people wanted their $50k trucks still, so I guess it's the market you're looking for. We felt $11k was a good deal and was happy with it. Go low and I think they are desparate to move 'em right now. I know they didn't lose money off of me, but they sure didn't make much either. Or just get Da Vette and be happy for the foreseeable future. Why do you want a new car? I would look at used ones as well and compare. Edited February 25, 2009 by TimC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I know dealers get a certain amount of "hold back" as well on every new car they sell. My buddy worked at a dealership for awhile and told me about some of the games they play ($500 over invoice doesn't really mean they are only getting $500). I kind of loathe care dealers (certain ones) for the games they play. E.g. My boss was buying a new company car and there was an ad with the exact car he was looking for (something like a Fusion SE). This ad had the price well below what other people were (maybe the normal going rate was 16-17K and this was listed around 14K). Well, when he called in the dealer started saying that this vehicle didn't have a lot of options and he should come in to discuss. My boss called BS and said the SE had all the options he was looking for. The salesguy eventually said that although they have several of these cars in stock, there was only one sold at the price listed in the ad. We don't really believe they even sold one at that price. They just wanted to drum up some people and hope they can separate them from their cash when they get into the door. Sorry for the side story, the point is that many dealers are scum so don't feel bad about kicking their teeth in or shopping their price. They will take advantage of any scrub that hasn't done their homework without thinking twice. GL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I couldn't get to the link, but wonder when those numbers were issued. I bought a used truck a few months ago and it was listed for $14,000. I offered $11,000 and they took it. I'm thinking a nice 20% off was a good deal. I had watched the truck for about a month and they couldn't sell it. I went in at month-end and was will willing to walk out without a second thought. It was a full-size Chevy truck with 30,000 miles and the remainder of warranty without a ton of options (just wanted something to simply haul stuff around). I think people wanted their $50k trucks still, so I guess it's the market you're looking for. We felt $11k was a good deal and was happy with it. Go low and I think they are desparate to move 'em right now. I know they didn't lose money off of me, but they sure didn't make much either. Or just get Da Vette and be happy for the foreseeable future. Why do you want a new car? I would look at used ones as well and compare. Yes they may be desperate, but you can't compare markup on a new vehicle to the markup on a used one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Those numbers seem reasonably accurate. That's how much MSRP is over dealer cost. This just gives you a ball park estimate as to how much negotiating room you will have on any given car. Ah, I see now. I thought it was a percentage of how business was doing. And I thought, wow how could everyone be doing well. But that makes much more sense now. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'm a lease car gal, my current one's up this summer. This is the car I'm looking at to replace it: http://www.audiusa.com/audi/us/en2/new_cars/Audi_A4.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 speaking of holdbacks: Make Holdback Acura 3% of the Base MSRP Audi No holdback BMW No holdback Buick 3% of the Total MSRP Cadillac 3% of the Total MSRP Chevrolet 3% of the Total MSRP Chrysler 3% of the Total MSRP Dodge 3% of the Total MSRP Ford 3% of the Total MSRP GMC 3% of the Total MSRP Honda 2% of the Base MSRP HUMMER 3% of the Total MSRP Hyundai 2% of the Total Invoice Infiniti 1% of the Base MSRP Isuzu 3% of the Total MSRP Jaguar No Holdback Jeep 3% of the Total MSRP Kia 3% of the Base Invoice Land Rover No Holdback Lexus 2% of the Base MSRP Lincoln 2% of the Total MSRP Mazda 2% of the Base MSRP Mercedes-Benz 3% of the Total MSRP Mercury 3% of the Total MSRP MINI No Holdback Mitsubishi 2% of the Base MSRP Nissan 2% of the Total Invoice Pontiac 3% of the Total MSRP Porsche No Holdback Saab 2.2% of the Base MSRP Saturn 3% of the Total MSRP Scion No Holdback Subaru 3% of the Total MSRP (Amount may differ in Northeastern U.S.) Suzuki 3% of the Base MSRP Toyota 2% of the Base MSRP (Amount may differ in Southern U.S.) Volkswagen 2% of the Base MSRP Volvo 1% of the Base MSRP When calculating holdback, use the following guidelines. If a holdback is calculated from the: Total MSRP: consumers must include the MSRP price of all options before figuring the holdback. Base MSRP: consumers must figure the holdback before adding desired options. Total Invoice: consumers must include the invoice price of all options before figuring the holdback. Base Invoice: consumers must figure the holdback before adding desired options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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