whoopazz Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 Meh, humans have a choice. I'd say horses do as well, but they don't know anything else. That still doesn't justify the comparison. This is silly. They have a choice? Have you not seen a pony hesitate or fight to not get in the gate? They are raced for our own entertainment and nothing else. Where in the world are you going with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 as darwin always said, those with the bigger brain get to rule the world. sorry horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Who are we asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Yes. Horses have a choice. If they don't want to run, they don't run. They don't have it. They show nothing in the mornings, they don't run. There was a yealing several years back that sold for like 10 million, he was given to Pletcher, his name I think is the Green Monkey. That's a lot of money to spend on a horse that has never run a race. He maybe ran a few times, and that's it. He just didn't have it. So yes, they do have a choice. These horses know they are in a race. Using an example of a horse hesitating or fighting getting in the gate is weak. Maybe they've never run in front of a ton of people, perhaps something spooked them....if the horse doesn't want to run, it won't run---they are trained to run and win, it's who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh B Tool Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Born and bred for the sport for many years. More of the crack of the whip, rather then the pain recvd that gets their attention down the stretch. Rachel is one Hugh B*tch huh? bigger than the gelding. she on HGH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 This is silly. They have a choice? Have you not seen a pony hesitate or fight to not get in the gate? They are raced for our own entertainment and nothing else. Where in the world are you going with this? Gil gave a good enough answer. I've always understood that they fight to get in the gate because they are just plain excited & are already surging with adrenaline in anticipation of the race. Combined with the crowd noise & the other horses I'm not surprised they are that jumpy. Yes. Horses have a choice. If they don't want to run, they don't run. They don't have it. They show nothing in the mornings, they don't run. There was a yealing several years back that sold for like 10 million, he was given to Pletcher, his name I think is the Green Monkey. That's a lot of money to spend on a horse that has never run a race. He maybe ran a few times, and that's it. He just didn't have it. So yes, they do have a choice. These horses know they are in a race. Using an example of a horse hesitating or fighting getting in the gate is weak. Maybe they've never run in front of a ton of people, perhaps something spooked them....if the horse doesn't want to run, it won't run---they are trained to run and win, it's who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 The fact that these horses occasionally die on the track (with thousands of people cheering them on) pretty much sums up the answer to Loaf's question. Are you saying people cheer when the horses are put down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I saw Landseer break down about 40 yards from me at the BC when it was at Arlington some years back. Horrifying. But, I cheer then a horse gets whipped around the track--that's so fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 they are animals Yep, and a little lower in the food chain than us for lot's of reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Miscreant Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 beating an animal for gain?and before this veers off topic, I would rather die 3 years early than have to watch a rodeo... Not a fan of rodeo either but when I do see a clip of somebody getting their butt handed to them by a bull I rather enjoy it. It's not that I enjoy seeing anyone get hurt rather seeing someone get what they deserve. Much like watching people get their mud stomped in Pamplona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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