Azazello1313 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 change Main Street has had a tough year, losing jobs and seeing little evidence of the economic revival that experts say has already begun. But K Street is raking it in. Washington’s influence industry is on track to shatter last year’s record $3.3 billion spent to lobby Congress and the rest of the federal government — and that’s with a down economy and about 1,500 fewer registered lobbyists in town, according to data collected by the Center for Responsive Politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 It's amazing for a administration that has been accused of doing nothing, just how many groups are afraid of no more business as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 It's amazing for a administration that has been accused of doing nothing, just how many groups are afraid of no more business as usual. it's not something to get excited about by any means but the the article clearly indicates that lobbyists are spending more because of proposed legislative changes are going in a different direction that the norm. there’s a more dismal lesson to be learned from the relentless upward trend of lobbying spending that appears undaunted by even a massive recession: Lobbying is seen as an issue of political and economic survival in this town. That is never going to change no matter what party is in power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 this is pretty simple, really. the more the environment is such that businesses feel they can gain market share by currying political favor, the more money they will shovel in that direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 this is pretty simple, really. the more the environment is such that businesses feel they can gain market share by currying political favor, the more money they will shovel in that direction. Some of us have been saying that for years. Unless the fundamental way the government is set up is changed, this won't end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 Some of us have been saying that for years. Unless the fundamental way the government is set up is changed, this won't end. well I agree with that. but you and I have different things in mind when we talk about changing "the fundamental way government is set up". for you, it's about socializing elections. for me, it's about the government getting its nose out of every goddamn thing -- the more the government controls, the more opportunity there is for graft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 for you, it's about socializing elections. for me, it's about the government getting its nose out of every goddamn thing -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Take the current situation - add term limits and voila, problem curtailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 well I agree with that. but you and I have different things in mind when we talk about changing "the fundamental way government is set up". for you, it's about socializing elections. for me, it's about the government getting its nose out of every goddamn thing -- the more the government controls, the more opportunity there is for graft. the worm has turned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 (edited) well I agree with that. but you and I have different things in mind when we talk about changing "the fundamental way government is set up". for you, it's about socializing elections. for me, it's about the government getting its nose out of every goddamn thing -- the more the government controls, the more opportunity there is for graft. Of the two options, my way is the only one that will work. There is no such thing as a hands-off government, therefore corruption - and that is what it is - will continue to grow. It's simple really - we don't matter and as long as it takes millions of dollars to run a single re-election campaign and those dollars are supplied by lobbyists, we will never matter. Edited December 23, 2009 by Ursa Majoris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 7 lies in under 2 minutes Remember when he seemed smart, ZOMGers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyman Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 7 lies in under 2 minutes Remember when he seemed smart, ZOMGers? He is not smart, he is counting on the country to be dumb. He has his wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Of the two options, my way is the only one that will work. There is no such thing as a hands-off government, therefore corruption - and that is what it is - will continue to grow. It's simple really - we don't matter and as long as it takes millions of dollars to run a single re-election campaign and those dollars are supplied by lobbyists, we will never matter. yup He is not smart, he is counting on the country to be dumb. He has his wish. the country is dumb u dumb arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 the country is very dumb and the country is lied to. bad, bad combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 (edited) the country is very dumb and the country is lied to. bad, bad combo. +1000 Can you beleive a president actually lied to his country by saying we are invading a country because they have these fictional weapons? And due in large part to this, he turned a record surplus into a record deficit while sending the country into an economic tailspin? I hate it when our leaders lie to us. But you are right, the country is indeed dumb....they should have demanded he be sent to prison, rather than take weak exit polls showing only 1 in 5 liked him. ETA: By the way, Merry Christmas, y'all ! Edited December 23, 2009 by i_am_the_swammi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyman Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 yup the country is dumb u dumb arse. Thank you member of the liberal elite....you guys are tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Thank you member of the liberal elite....you guys are tools. Man, do I hate this slogan 'liberal elite'. All it took is talk radio saying it every five minutes for the last few years and now people buy into it. Thank you echo chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Man, do I hate this slogan 'liberal elite'. All it took is talk radio saying it every five minutes for the last few years and now people buy into it. Thank you echo chamber. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Man, do I hate this slogan 'liberal elite'. All it took is talk radio saying it every five minutes for the last few years and now people buy into it. Thank you echo chamber. Are you saying Zeke isn't a beacon of independent thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 Man, do I hate this slogan 'liberal elite'. All it took is talk radio saying it every five minutes for the last few years and now people buy into it. Thank you echo chamber. On the one hand liberals are an elite. On the other, they're a bunch of money-grubbing welfare leeches. I wish these conservatives would get their story straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 On the one hand liberals are an elite. On the other, they're a bunch of money-grubbing welfare leeches. I wish these conservatives would get their story straight. They are - just like conservatives are heartless billionaires and evangelical rednecks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 24, 2009 Author Share Posted December 24, 2009 what part are you confused about, sweetie pie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 what part are you confused about, sweetie pie? The part where I used to think you made intelligent well thought out contributions every once in awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 what part are you confused about, sweetie pie? Little to much chardonnay and menthol cigarettes when you posted last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 24, 2009 Author Share Posted December 24, 2009 The part where I used to think you made intelligent well thought out contributions every once in awhile. weak dodge it's too bad ursa pulled the rug out from under you there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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