electricrelish Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Copied & pasted from an e-mail my sister sent me: However, I know that I am a biased Catholic but --- Catholic Relief Service’s · Their home base was already there established in helping the Haiti citizens, like the Doctor’s wo Borders · Their facilities were not damaged, and they are searching their satellite warehouses as far away as the Dominican Republic to make sure that supplies that they store away are in-tact. · They work in conjunction immediately with all the parishes in the area acting as satellite places of aid. · Because of this, they were/are able to be quick first responders vs. figuring out their own issues first on infrastructure… · They are the largest donor of any I have seen so far. They immediately pledged $5MM dollars. · Plus, I think their overhead administratively is lower than compared to most. I have attached a link if you are interested in reading more on CRS: https://secure.crs.org/site/Donation2?df_id....donation=form1 I think I'll be giving thru CRS Good stuff. I went through the American Red Cross. You have to select Haiti Relief and Development as your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Tremendously sad. It's hard to grasp the scope of a catastrophy that large. Like Ursa said, those folks weren't living well before this happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneymakers Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I meant no disrespect to people who believe in God or are religious, so I apologize if that was how it was interpreted. But I have no respect for people like Robertson and their ilk that God is vengeful and should be feared. That is not the loving forgiving God that I was brought up with and it's my opinion that these "leaders" do it for personal and monetary gain (Jim and Tammy?) and also for control. Robertson must have a substantial following or he would not be on as much as he is. How many people actually believe him? I'm sorry to say millions and that is too many. Haiti and the devil (part two) The tragedy in Haiti continues to claim the attention of the world. According to this morning's Wall Street Journal, Haitian officials have said that the death toll could top 100,000. The earthquake was magnitude 7, estimated by the United States Geological Survey to be the equivalent of half a million tons of high explosive, or the energy of several nuclear bombs. Could this disaster be the judgment of God? In his comments on the tragedy two days ago, Pat Robertson spoke of a pact made by the island's inhabitants with the devil. His statement has been criticized by many and defended by others. Rev. Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network has released a statement: "His comments were based on the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French. This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed." What is the actual history behind this allegation? First, I want to be as fair as possible to Rev. Robertson. He is by no means the only person who refers to this alleged pact with the devil. While the historical record is ambiguous, as we will see, this tradition has been widely quoted over the centuries. The CBN statement made on Wednesday notes that their ministry "has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster. They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering." Now let's examine the tradition Rev. Robertson and others have cited. The fact is that no one knows if the alleged Haitian pact with the devil actually happened. The CBN statement notes "the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman." Rev. Robertson misspoke in identifying this event with the reign of Napoleon III, who didn't come to power until 1848. But what about the event itself? Here's what we know: on August 14, 1791, slaves in the northern part of Haiti gathered to begin a revolt against their French masters. Led by a voodoo priest named Dutty Boukman, they spawned a revolution which expelled the French and established the Republic of Haiti in 1804. Here the story blurs. One tradition claims that Boukman led his slave followers in a voodoo ritual in which they slaughtered a pig and drank its blood. Then they allegedly made their pact with the devil: if he would free their people from the French, they would serve his spirits on the island for the next 200 years. By dedicating their country to Satan, they caused the economic deprivation and natural disasters which have plagued Haiti over the last two centuries. Since their supposed pledge to the devil was up in 1991, how could it have caused the January 12 disaster? In April of 2003, President Aristide made voodoo an official religion in Haiti; some claim that this act renewed Haiti's pact with the devil. There's another way to tell the story, however. We're out of space for today's essay, so we'll continue on Monday. In the meantime, the most important thing Christians can do is not to speculate on the causes of the tragedy but to respond with prayer and compassion. Rev. Robertson's ministry has sent millions of dollars of medications. What will you do for Haiti today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) USS Carl Vinson has arrived. By Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Jason Thompson, USS Carl Vinson Public Affairs USS CARL VINSON, At sea (NNS) -- The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) arrived off the coast of Port-Au-Prince, Haiti Jan. 15 to commence humanitarian assistance and disaster relief operations. Carl Vinson received orders from U.S. Southern Command to deliver assistance to the Caribbean nation following a 7.3 magnitude earthquake which caused catastrophic damage within the capital city Jan. 12. The aircraft carrier's speed, flexibility and sustainability make it an ideal platform to carry out relief operations. "Our initial focus is to concentrate on saving lives while providing first responder support to the people of Haiti. Our assistance here reflects our nation's compassion and commitment to those impacted by this tragedy," said Rear. Adm. Ted Branch, commander of the Carl Vinson Carrier Strike Group and the U.S. Navy's sea-based humanitarian support mission of Haiti. The carrier arrived on station with a robust airlift capability, picking up extra helicopters while in transit that will will prove essential during the mission. Carl Vinson commanding officer Capt. Bruce H. Lindsey said, "When tasked to support humanitarian assistance and disaster relief operations in Haiti, we immediately headed to Mayport, Fla., at more than 30 knots and loaded 19 helicopters, personnel and support equipment from five different East Coast Navy squadrons in less than eight hours. There is no other platform that can do all of that so quickly." U.S. Southern Command is well-versed in providing humanitarian assistance to the region. Since 2005, the command has led U.S. military support to 14 major relief missions, including assistance to Haiti in September 2008. During that mission, U.S. military forces airlifted 3.3 million pounds of aid to communities that were devastated by a succession of major storms. For more news from Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Southern Command, visit www.navy.mil/local/cusns/. Why wasn't this done 2 days after Katrina? Edited January 15, 2010 by Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Now let's examine the tradition Rev. Robertson and others have cited. The fact is that no one knows if the alleged Haitian pact with the devil actually happened. Um, yes we do. At least, anyone with one functioning brain cell does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 Um, yes we do. At least, anyone with one functioning brain cell does. so im nuts if i still believe in santa and the easter bunny, but these 'believers' are all sane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Note: I heard on Sirius Bloomberg radio on the way in this morning the following quote about Haiti: "Money doesn't mean anything. Water is the only currency now." Can you imagine a situation where everything else around you is sellable in exchange just for some water to drink? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Note: I heard on Sirius Bloomberg radio on the way in this morning the following quote about Haiti: "Money doesn't mean anything. Water is the only currency now." Can you imagine a situation where everything else around you is sellable in exchange just for some water to drink? yes, if you have ever seen dead lakes or open pit mines you could imagine it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Why wasn't this done 2 days after Katrina? The most important thing is that, whether here or abroad, a Katrina like failure never happens again. It would anger me much more if we saw nothing happen for days again. That would mean that many, many people died in vain with no lesson learned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Note: I heard on Sirius Bloomberg radio on the way in this morning the following quote about Haiti: "Money doesn't mean anything. Water is the only currency now." Can you imagine a situation where everything else around you is sellable in exchange just for some water to drink? Why, yes! Yes I can. (See the thread about Wells). But I pray we never have to be in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneymakers Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dont you know that Armageddon and the middle east has never been about the oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Why, yes! Yes I can. (See the thread about Wells). ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 ??? http://forums.thehuddle.com/index.php?showtopic=314233 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeductiveNun Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 I was going to link to the thread about installing wells, but Big John is way too fast for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Just a thought for those sending $$... Make sure to do your research before donating. I'm sure the links that have been posted are for legit, reputable organizations, but a lot of money falls through the cracks and never reaches the people who need it in other cases. There are also plenty of sick, evil people who set up fake charities when a disaster happens and just pocket the cash. Edited January 15, 2010 by budlitebrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Just a thought for those sending $$... Make sure to do your research before donating. I'm sure the links that have been posted are for legit, reputable organizations, but a lot of money falls through the cracks and never reaches the people who need it in other cases. There are also plenty of sick, evil people who set up fake charities when a disaster happens and just pocket the cash. There are already hundreds if not thousands of fake sites and spam emails trying to get money from this disaster. Be careful of sites that come up as a result of Google searches. I received this from Websense, a leading Internet protection company yesterday: Websense Security Labs ThreatSeeker Network has discovered that searches on terms related to the recent earthquake in Haiti return results leading to a rogue antivirus program. The earthquake, which happened on Tuesday near Port-au-Prince, had a magnitude of 7.0 and is said to be the most powerful earthquake to hit Haiti. People around the world are searching the Internet to find the latest updates on this issue, wanting to know how to make charitable donations, trying to discover the extent of the calamity through photos or videos, and looking to see what their favorite artists and musicians are saying about the disaster. Unfortunately, the bad guys use major crises and events like this to spread their malicious code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Just be sure to go to websites of established, legit organizations like the Red Cross and Salvation Army. Eliminates the scammer threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Because his believers are simple-minded sheep who just follow the @ss in front of them... Precisely! Robertson points to stuff like this earthquake and uses it to further scare(and thus control) a bunch of simpletons whom he dupes for profit. See Duvalier, Papa Doc Stay classy Rush Limbaugh you bottom feeding scumbag . . . . Yeah, it's real easy for Robertson and Limbaugh to sit up here, fat and comfy, and make their wonderful statements. Let's see them go down there and do something about it. Let's say Robertson is right on - just for argument's sake. You're telling me you want to sit up here and curse the ignorant little 3 kids of some mother who has to sell her ass just to feed those kids? Because there was some deal with the devil (again, we're assuming for argument's sake) 200+ years ago by 5 or 6 people. Why don't you work and pray to break that curse uncle Patsy? Why don't you have your followers act as prayer warriors and tear that curse down? You stupid smug son-of-a-bitch. Live your faith, azzhole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Note: I heard on Sirius Bloomberg radio on the way in this morning the following quote about Haiti: "Money doesn't mean anything. Water is the only currency now." Can you imagine a situation where everything else around you is sellable in exchange just for some water to drink? On a friggin' island no less. I've thought about if for a year or so now after reading a lot about the future demand for water - investing in desalination technology may pay off handsomely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 On a friggin' island no less. I've thought about if for a year or so now after reading a lot about the future demand for water - investing in desalination technology may pay off handsomely... I've seen the same thing. Those irritatingly smug IBM commercials have also mentioned massive leaps forward in desalination technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Another legit organization that I've supported for two years who is VERY active with orphans in Haiti (among other locations). BTW, a wealthy family covers 100% of the administrative costs, so every dollar given goes into the field to help the kids. Edited January 15, 2010 by muck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Another legit organization that I've supported for two years who is VERY active with orphans in Haiti (among other locations). Withdrawn. Edited January 15, 2010 by bpwallace49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 Do they accept croc sandals? While the reference to me in crocs never gets tiresome, I'm not sure how it's applicable here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 While the reference to me in crocs never gets tiresome, I'm not sure how it's applicable here. Point taken. Withdrawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted January 15, 2010 Share Posted January 15, 2010 May pat Robertson burn in Hell for his untrue/stoopid/wrongly biased comments! Why doesn't someone take him to task? He spews this crap and the "believers" believe! I hope no one here has sympathy for Pat Robertson when he dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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