TilsterBearz Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Hey guys, I have the 8th pick in a 10 Team league redraft. Scoring: PPR. RB/WR/TE = 6pts per TD Start: 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1 DEF Would you go with Menndonhal or Mathews or A.Johnson(if available) in that spot? thanks for your insight!! Huddle 4ever!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Stanky Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I doubt AJ is there at 8, but if he is I think he's the safest option. Do you have some idea on who will be there? 1. CJ 2. AP 3. Rice 4. MJD 5. Gore 6. AJ 7. Turner 8. ??? I like Mathews more than Mendenhall, but it sounds like you're in a tough draft slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I say if you can't find an RB you are comfortable with, find a WR that you are. Yes I would go AJ there in a heartbeat but I don't expect he will last that long either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 If those are the only 3 players you'd be considering at that spot, then AJ, even though you only start 2 WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Company of Heroes Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Seeing that it is 10 team, and PPR. I probably go for a WR like Moss or Wayne (assuming AJ is gone). You will likely get Mendenhall or Matthews in the 2nd. That assumes that you like Matthews that much. I'd be hesitant to take him that early myself. -Heroes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Seeing that it is 10 team, and PPR. I probably go for a WR like Moss or Wayne (assuming AJ is gone). You will likely get Mendenhall or Matthews in the 2nd. That assumes that you like Matthews that much. I'd be hesitant to take him that early myself. -Heroes +1. All of the RBs after the top 5 scare me (unless Tuner is still available at 1.08), so I'd be inclined to go with a safe WR pick, and then turn around and get a guy like Grant, Charles, Mendenhall, DWill, Sjax or Matthews in the second (whichever of those guys you're high on. I might even include Greene on that list in non-PPR, but the Huddle seems to be very bearish on him and a couple of those other backs mentioned). However, I did do a mock recently where I took Mendenhall at 1.10, and then took Grant (both maybe a tad early) with my next pick. I think this might be the only way I'd take one of those backs in the late-first, if I could pair them up with another RB1b to help eliminate some of the risk.. But after the dropoff from elite backs, I've also noticed that RB seems to be deeper due to question marks and RBBC's, so if you can pick the right ones, then that could be a good route to go, since proven WR talent seems to be dropping off faster this year, while guys like McFadden/Bush are getting overlooked, and could be had late with potentially good value. But with only starting 2 WRs, then an argument can definitely be made for making sure you lock up at least one good PPR back in the first two rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbluefan Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Seeing that it is 10 team, and PPR. I probably go for a WR like Moss or Wayne (assuming AJ is gone). You will likely get Mendenhall or Matthews in the 2nd. That assumes that you like Matthews that much. I'd be hesitant to take him that early myself. -Heroes Couldn't have said it better ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd and schlong Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Couldn't have said it better ! Look at turner or moss if AJ isnt availible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff5769 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I'd go Moss at the 8 spot in a ppr, assuming AJ is gone which should be a deffanite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Johnson for sure, if he's there. No way i would ever take a rookie RB in the first round of a redraft. I'm not even sure I would take a rookie in the first round of a keeper or dynasty league (where all vets are included), unless I'm 100% sure the guy is going to be a stud (and I'm not sure how anyone can be 100% sure of something that is fairly speculative). In a redraft, there are probably two dozen guys I would rather have than Matthews, with or without the PPR. Not saying Matthews won't be fine, but the risk far outweighs the potential reward, in my opinion. Best case, he's a top 10 fantasy player. Worst case, he's not in the top 50. I would say with a fair amount of certainty that both of those things have a fairly equal chance of happening (in other words, I don't expect either, but rather that he'll be somewhere in the middle of the 11-49 range). Bottom line... there are always better first round options than a completely unproven rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Of course, maybe you know something I don't, and Matthews is the second coming of Tomlinson. If that happens, maybe you win your league by picking him in the first. All I'm saying is that owners who make a practice of drafting the rookie "flavor of the year" in the first round of redraft leagues typically don't win their leagues. There are always exceptions, but they're pretty rare. Plus, like others have mentioned, you could most likely get Mendenhall or Matthews in the 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TilsterBearz Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 Great pts guys! your right AJ will probably be gone....... I have yet to do a mock draft, so I'm going to start entering them and see what falls my way. thanks again for your pts of view!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TilsterBearz Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Great pts guys! your right AJ will probably be gone....... I have yet to do a mock draft, so I'm going to start entering them and see what falls my way. thanks again for your pts of view!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TilsterBearz Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) Ok 3 mocks are in. 2 AJs and 1 Turner. I just don't believe SJackson is going top 10 to allow this to happen. If AJ is gone along with Turner I have a bad feelin about Moss, so do I reach for calvinJohohn or stick with RB but who? Edited July 20, 2010 by TilsterBearz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJV Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) Ok 3 mocks are in. 2 AJs and 1 Turner. I just don't believe SJackson is going top 10 to allow this to happen. If AJ is gone along with Turner I have a bad feelin about Moss, so do I reach for calvinJohohn or stick with RB but who? if both are gone at this point, grab mendy or green IMO so you sure yourself a teir 2 RB then take Wayne or Megatron for your 2nd pick. Edited July 20, 2010 by RJV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEB Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 If this was a Dynasty then you could afford to look at Matthews, Greene, Wells, etc.....but its a redraft and you're only care in the world is getting points from proven players and winning--this year... I think that if Steven Jackson isn't included in this conversation then everyone is missing the boat on what the point of a redraft is...SJax has been rode hard his entire career--no doubt. However, the best part about SJax is that he is going to be the focal point of that offense and he is going to put up quality RB1 numbers--regardless of injury, disease, decapitation, etc.... I think you have to consider him at 1.8 because unless you are drafting with a bunch of idiots then AJ is most definitely gonna be gone. Then you are left with Michael "one hit wonder" Turner and a bunch of maybes. Go for the sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TilsterBearz Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 If this was a Dynasty then you could afford to look at Matthews, Greene, Wells, etc.....but its a redraft and you're only care in the world is getting points from proven players and winning--this year... I think that if Steven Jackson isn't included in this conversation then everyone is missing the boat on what the point of a redraft is...SJax has been rode hard his entire career--no doubt. However, the best part about SJax is that he is going to be the focal point of that offense and he is going to put up quality RB1 numbers--regardless of injury, disease, decapitation, etc.... I think you have to consider him at 1.8 because unless you are drafting with a bunch of idiots then AJ is most definitely gonna be gone. Then you are left with Michael "one hit wonder" Turner and a bunch of maybes. Go for the sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TilsterBearz Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 The only thing SJackson has proven is he can't stay healthy. He is coming off of surgery and has a rookie QB. They will stack the line and eventually he will be on IR. I know you can say that about any RB that might be an injury risk, I just see more of a chance for him to get hurt. Anyone else feel this way?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 The only thing SJackson has proven is he can't stay healthy. He is coming off of surgery and has a rookie QB. They will stack the line and eventually he will be on IR. I know you can say that about any RB that might be an injury risk, I just see more of a chance for him to get hurt. Anyone else feel this way?? I feel that SJax should be included in the conversation by the 8 pick, if not sooner, and then one must consider all factors, such as potential injury risk, use (he has averaged oer 20 carries a game for the last 4 seasons and 4 catches per game) as if you don;t get the touches, you don;t get the chances to score. So, yes, he should be in the conversation, and if you have ruled him out, that is fine just look at the other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photobiz2 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 The only thing SJackson has proven is he can't stay healthy. He is coming off of surgery and has a rookie QB. They will stack the line and eventually he will be on IR. I know you can say that about any RB that might be an injury risk, I just see more of a chance for him to get hurt. Anyone else feel this way?? He is most certainly an injury risk. I can't even remember him making it through a full season...but he is still a workhorse back. There is no risk of committee and he catches a lot of balls. He should be considered in a PPR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEB Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 He is most certainly an injury risk. I can't even remember him making it through a full season...but he is still a workhorse back. There is no risk of committee and he catches a lot of balls. He should be considered in a PPR. He wore down a bit last year but only missed one full game... The guy rushed for 1400 yards....50 catches....he's a beast...with a team that could put him in the red zone more often he'd be a top 4 RB.... he only had 4 td's last year and AP had 18.....If we give him 10 more td's hes over 300 pts in dynasty ppr leagues and is over 20 pts ahead of Gore and about the same distance from the elite 4 who at the low end had 325ish... if he comes to you at 1.8 in a REDRAFT you take him. Its a lay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TilsterBearz Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 ok any sleeper RBs I should look for in later rounds in case he does go down? I'd like to go WR WR after that and hope for some luck with my RB2. (ASSUMEing again with my first pick AJ is gone, which will be amazing if he isnt'.) Ohhhh the guessing game..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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