Scorcher Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Arizona, he lives here already so might as well make the match once released. Arizona was good for Warner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Are we assuming McNabb is released or traded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youre Going Down Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Are we assuming McNabb is released or traded? I am assuming he will be released from his such great contract he has. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Unless there is a better/younger QB that will be a F.A - I think they have to go with McNabb. He's older, yes, but not nearly as old as Favre. McNabb should have a good 2-4 years left in the tank. QBs these days are playing well into their late 30s and McNabb just turned 34 this season. I'd say he has at least 3 good years left. I think the DOW hits 5k before McNabb is good again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I don't get why people say the Vikings? They tried the old QB and it has not worked out. I would love to see McNabb in a Viking uniform but I don't think that is a good move for the Vikes. It's a terrible move for the Vikes. He's fat and lazy and he sucks. He's been benched for Rex F*cking Grossman for Godssakes. If McFatt goes to the Vikes I will not watch them next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 It's a terrible move for the Vikes. He's fat and lazy and he sucks. He's been benched for Rex F*cking Grossman for Godssakes. If McFatt goes to the Vikes I will not watch them next year. If McNabb goes to the Viqueens and you don't watch, you're going to miss out on a playoff run. But hey, if you'd prefer Tavaris or Ramsey - that's all the better for my Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 you mean the same Santana Moss that has had the following seasons? 74/1105 10TDs 84/1483 9TDs 79/1044 6 TDs That Santana Moss Or the Santana Moss that has from 2003-2009 ranked in the top 5 once top 10 twice top 20 three times top 30 5 times top 36 6 times and his worst ranking was 41st in 2007 is that the same Santana Moss that McNabb has made fantasy relevant for the 1st time in his career Just curious is all Thanks. For a guy who's bagging on folk for thinking McNabb can't throw a deep ball he really should be more careful about saying stoopid things himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Thanks. For a guy who's bagging on folk for thinking McNabb can't throw a deep ball he really should be more careful about saying stoopid things himself. It's easy to call me out when your sychophantic buddy keggerz is doing all the work for you by checking the stats every time I type something. He doesn't catch me being wrong often but he did this time - big whoop. Obviously my memory was off but out of 10 seasons in the league, he's eclipsed 1,000 yards only 3 times and double digit TDs only once (see, I can check stats too). I don't fact check every opinion I have but with watchdogs like you and keggerz always on my jock, maybe I should start. Regardless, you should feel extra manly chasing me around from thread to thread in an attempt to make me look bad I'm honored you care about me so much but I'm also married and hetero. Please stop stalking me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46f3 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Which of the above teams run a WCO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Which of the above teams run a WCO? Contingent upon coaching changes that many of the listed teams could/will be facing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 It's easy to call me out when your sychophantic buddy keggerz is doing all the work for you by checking the stats every time I type something. He doesn't catch me being wrong often but he did this time - big whoop. Obviously my memory was off but out of 10 seasons in the league, he's eclipsed 1,000 yards only 3 times and double digit TDs only once (see, I can check stats too). I don't fact check every opinion I have but with watchdogs like you and keggerz always on my jock, maybe I should start. Regardless, you should feel extra manly chasing me around from thread to thread in an attempt to make me look bad I'm honored you care about me so much but I'm also married and hetero. Please stop stalking me. Don't flatter yourself - you do plenty fine making yourself look bad. BTW - saying "I think it's cold outside" is an opinion. Saying Moss hasn't been a fantasy starter until this year is a statement of fact that was easily disproved. Now, you'd like to change the meaning of what you said, but you said something dumb and got called out on it. He's been a fantasy satarter for pretty much his entire career in 12 team leagues. Something tells me it won't be the last. But hey, you've got your syncophatic buttpie buddy to help you out so you're not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osu1322 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 The last couple years the Vikings have made serious bids for the playoffs and a Super Bowl. I don't see them grabbing another grizzled old vetern though. Joe Webb is young and inexperenced but he's shown enough talent to at least for the Vikesto give him a shot at the starting position. Arizona does seem like the best fit. He'll have good recievers to throw to and he'll be trying to replace Warner There is a chance of that happening... I could also see Carolina if they don't draft a QB. I personally think they have other pressing concerns that need addressed in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 Gee, I hate to jump in the middle of someone elses pizzing match, but I have to agree Mcnabb did make Moss something he has rarely been. Consistant. Moss has spent his career doing little in most games, having a few big blowups every year, usually in meaningless spots to pad his stats. Just putting up his statlines and saying he has been "viable" doesn't cut it. Maybe he has been viable in a total points league, but for the biggest part of his career he has been fantasy poison, It seems he has been more consistant with McNabb than in years past, but if you will check his stat-line I'll bet dollars to donuts he has at least 5-6 games in the single digit fantasy points this year, which in head to head leagues is the kiss of death. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osu1322 Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 I just read this top 25 thing for 3011. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/551167-...-coming#page/26 I'll just let u guys know that they expect McNabb to go to one of the teams we've been talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 I just read this top 25 thing for 3011. I bet Favre will still be starting by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 (edited) Gee, I hate to jump in the middle of someone elses pizzing match, but I have to agree Mcnabb did make Moss something he has rarely been. Consistant. Moss has spent his career doing little in most games, having a few big blowups every year, usually in meaningless spots to pad his stats. Just putting up his statlines and saying he has been "viable" doesn't cut it. Maybe he has been viable in a total points league, but for the biggest part of his career he has been fantasy poison, It seems he has been more consistant with McNabb than in years past, but if you will check his stat-line I'll bet dollars to donuts he has at least 5-6 games in the single digit fantasy points this year, which in head to head leagues is the kiss of death. Carry on. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play...sSa00/gamelog// It looks like he's had at least 3 years 'more consistent' than this one, and 2008 wasn't a big yardage year but having 6 TDs in 6 different games is surely very nice. I'll also point out that (as you know) a large % of WRs are woefully inconsistent. I think a better example of an overrated WR every year based on his previous stat line would be Ochocinco. Dude has 4 big games a year and 12 of nothing. I'll disagree that he's fantasy poison as well: how many WRs who finish so many years in the top 30, especially in H2H leagues w/ 12 teams (w/ at least 2 WRs starting) are 'fantasy poison?' And there's a difference in consistency and scoring enough points to be a starter. Edited December 25, 2010 by Pope Flick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play...sSa00/gamelog// It looks like he's had at least 3 years 'more consistent' than this one, and 2008 wasn't a big yardage year but having 6 TDs in 6 different games is surely very nice. I'll also point out that (as you know) a large % of WRs are woefully inconsistent. I think a better example of an overrated WR every year based on his previous stat line would be Ochocinco. Dude has 4 big games a year and 12 of nothing. I'll disagree that he's fantasy poison as well: how many WRs who finish so many years in the top 30, especially in H2H leagues w/ 12 teams (w/ at least 2 WRs starting) are 'fantasy poison?' And there's a difference in consistency and scoring enough points to be a starter. According to my PPR league records, from 2007-2009 Moss, including games he missed with injury scored more than 10 points per in less than half his team's games. This year, only 4 such games, but his owners have suffered two single digit efforts in the last 3 weeks, just when they needed him the most. You can look at year-end totals and draw whatever conclusions you wish, but in my opinion this is a guy that has not been a relable starter, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 According to my PPR league records, from 2007-2009 Moss, including games he missed with injury scored more than 10 points per in less than half his team's games. This year, only 4 such games, but his owners have suffered two single digit efforts in the last 3 weeks, just when they needed him the most. You can look at year-end totals and draw whatever conclusions you wish, but in my opinion this is a guy that has not been a relable starter, Really? I'm not on his jock, but he's scored 3 TDs in the last 2 weeks, with over 70 yards each week and 15 total receptions. That's interesting scoring you've got there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_bone65 Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 Really? I'm not on his jock, but he's scored 3 TDs in the last 2 weeks, with over 70 yards each week and 15 total receptions. That's interesting scoring you've got there. I agree with you totally, he has 25 and 19 in the last 2 weeks in AOTAOP. He has had 4 weeks ubder 10 points all year in that league as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUMbotron Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 Speaking of Bleacher Report, they think Tennessee is #1 in line for McNabb if (when) he's released. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/551123-...in-2011#page/11 McNabb, Britt, Chris Johnson... Randy Moss (?). It would be interesting. They'd have to decide, are we blowing this thing up -- or just re-loading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Really? I'm not on his jock, but he's scored 3 TDs in the last 2 weeks, with over 70 yards each week and 15 total receptions. That's interesting scoring you've got there. You're right, I remembered that wrong. I actually show him with 3 games of under 10 points in his last 6, sorry about the mis-info there. Still though, that is exactly what I am talking about with the inconsistency. Granted almost the whole the league has seemingly been less consistent overall this season so I'm not killing him for that. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, but I think you can attribute Moss' more consistent play this year with the arrival of McNabb, I just don't think you can completely discount that fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 You're right, I remembered that wrong. I actually show him with 3 games of under 10 points in his last 6, sorry about the mis-info there. Still though, that is exactly what I am talking about with the inconsistency. Granted almost the whole the league has seemingly been less consistent overall this season so I'm not killing him for that. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, but I think you can attribute Moss' more consistent play this year with the arrival of McNabb, I just don't think you can completely discount that fact. I'm not discounting that, but I'd say there are at least 3 seasons where he has been more consistent than this year. And this is all relative: unless you're a top 5 WR (AJ, Wayne), things are going to be inconsistent in the results column. We all know that. But if he's top 30 year after year, which he is, then he is consistnetly draftable. Meaning in 12 team leagues that have to start 2 WRs he's been startable every year in those type of leagues unless somehow the top 24 WRs were evenly distributed 2 per team. I doubt that happens much, if at all. This is NOT the year he's been made "a fantasy starter for the first time in his career" which was the statement that's been proven demonstrably false. That's the sentence that began the 'pissing match' not a debate over consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I bet Favre will still be starting by then. As in a Futurama head in a jar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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