tazinib1 Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 The original purpose behind this bill is commendable but this just screams Big Brother. They are watching you.... ISP to record your every move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 That is laughable. They make it seem as though internet pedophiles are rampant on the internet. What a fracking joke. Reminds me of this skit by the great Doug Stanhope (NSFW): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 This is EXACTLY the same tack they used with drunk driving to create their nazi revenue traffic stops and drug dealers to create asset forfieture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Which of Congress' powers allows them to do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 I'm amazed this hasn't gotten more play. Keep thinking your rights are not shrinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Which of Congress' powers allows them to do this? The Commerce Clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 The Commerce Clause. So would those in favor of Civil Rights be also in favor of drastically limiting an expansive interpretation of the commerce clause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 That is laughable. They make it seem as though internet pedophiles are rampant on the internet. What a fracking joke. Reminds me of this skit by the great Doug Stanhope (NSFW): Doug Stanhope is awesome. Some of his comments and views bug me a bit when it comes to religion, but all in all, he'd flippin' brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 This is EXACTLY the same tack they used with drunk driving to create their nazi revenue traffic stops and drug dealers to create asset forfieture. I don't see the problem with drunk driving traffic stops. It sounds like a good and safe idea (with all the horror that can result in drunk driving) and I am good with people chosing to do it - being fined to hell. Same thing with drug dealers (or anybody for that matter who has what they have as a result of an illigal enterprise) - now, I might argue that the drug laws on the book are ass backards, but I've no problem with drug dealers losing their stuff (so long as it isn't a buddy going in on a QP of herb or something to hook up some friends). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Keep thinking your rights are not shrinking We have no rights, only privileges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I think I know who we have to really look out for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 People who want to avoid their movements being detected on the Internet can use proxy servers and a whole range of spoofing and obfuscation tools that are widely available. This bill does nothing but spy on everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 People who want to avoid their movements being detected on the Internet can use proxy servers and a whole range of spoofing and obfuscation tools that are widely available. This bill does nothing but spy on everyone. Zactly. This bill is an invasion of privacy and is a great overreach of power by the government. But most individuals will cheerfully sign on to it in the name of "safety". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Zactly. This bill is an invasion of privacy and is a great overreach of power by the government. But most individuals will cheerfully sign on to it in the name of "safety". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 8, 2011 Author Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Big John's super search ability will now be known by all!! Edited August 8, 2011 by tazinib1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) I don't see the problem with drunk driving traffic stops. It sounds like a good and safe idea (with all the horror that can result in drunk driving) and I am good with people chosing to do it - being fined to hell. Same thing with drug dealers (or anybody for that matter who has what they have as a result of an illigal enterprise) - now, I might argue that the drug laws on the book are ass backards, but I've no problem with drug dealers losing their stuff (so long as it isn't a buddy going in on a QP of herb or something to hook up some friends). You're just not thinking of this to its logical conclusion. The DUI stops are EXACTLY the same "Your papers, please!" crap that used to go on behind the iron curtain. Nevermind that before this siht started in the 80's, DD had been on the decline for some 20+ years. Those stops are revenue makers for police/sheriff depts. For every drunk driver they pull off the road they issue probably 25 tickets for ridiculousness like seatbelts and lack of proof of insurance, expired tags, whatever. From a motorist blog And asset seizure is a racket, period. We're not supposed to be deprived of life, liberty or property w/o due process. Now, read this from the aclu. It's a racket for more intrusive gov't. Some nanny-statist uses some problem to inflame people, then a crisis happens, and those same politicians use the issue to increase their power. ETA - Of course I'm NOT saying that people should drive drunk with impunity or that people should be able to keep ill-gotten gains (but drug laws are a racket, period). I'm saying that this law will be expanded and continue to destroy liberties in this country. Like many other things, in theory, it's fine. But in practice, I subscribe to the ideal that 100 guilty should go free rather than one innocent be deprived of liberty. Edited August 9, 2011 by westvirginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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