CaptainHook Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 "Name another "choke" besides that AFC Championship game. " WILD CARD @NYJ L 41-0 14 31 137 45.2 4.42 17 0 2 1 31.2 1 2 2.0 2 0 651576[/snapback] Ooh, I was hoping one of you guys would bring that up. Do you recall that game? I doubt it. Jets scored first 7-0. Manning leads Colts into FG range, and Vandy misses. Jets take over, kick a FG. 10-0. Jets kick-off, Troy Walter fumbles the kick-off. Jets recover. They score again. 17-0, and the Colts have had the ball ONE TIME on offense. Colt receivers dropped 8 balls that day. Mannings INT's didn't come until late in the game. Manning was the only Colt who DID NOT give up or "choke". And if you'd watched that game, you'd know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 i tried watching but i fell asleep at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 ps that jets defense was rather sad too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Too bad the Colts D was MORE sad, and the Colts receivers couldn't have caught a cold that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D.Morrison Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 This really is a great spain alias. He's really captured the essence of annoyance. 650975[/snapback] EXCELLENT SIG LINE !! That 'Valhalla' is some good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglytuna Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 Manning will need to better his his 35 passer rating this weekend. I'm not saying that the Colts can't win, I just think no team can going into NE and beat them in their house. Ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 ps that jets defense was rather sad too 651593[/snapback] How could I forget! Did the Patriots even make the play-offs that year? Who won the AFC East that year anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsfan04 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 (edited) How could I forget! Did the Patriots even make the play-offs that year? Who won the AFC East that year anyway? 651620[/snapback] The Pats and Jets tied for the AFC East, the Jets won the tie breaker based on a 8-4 to 7-5 advantage in common games. And oh yeah, wasn't that the year sandwiched between the 2 Superbowl Wins? Pats went 11-5, 9-7, 14-2, 14-2 in the Tom Brady era. As you can see below, a non-playoff season can be sandwiched between 2 playoff seasons, but 6-10? Peyton Era 1998: 3-13 1999: 13-3 1st Rnd Bye, Lost AT HOME to Titans 2000: 10-6 Lost at Miami 2001: 6-10 2002: 10-6 Lost at Jets 2003: 12-4 Won AT HOME vs Denver, Won @ KC, Lost @ NE 2004: 12-4 Won AT HOME vs Denver As I recall, the Patriots had to win at Pittsburgh to reach the Superbowl, which was played in a dome against a dome team. Edited January 12, 2005 by Patsfan04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 (edited) Wasn't Tom Brady on the team when the Patriots went 5-11 in 2000? I guess he just wasn't ready, or good enough, to help them win. The 2001 Colts were doing allright until they lost Edgerrin James to a torn ACL. And when they lost him, it was down the tubes. But, there was a positive. By being 6-10, the Colts got to draft Dwight Freeney. Edited January 12, 2005 by CaptainHook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Wasn't Tom Brady on the team when the Patriots went 5-11 in 2000? I guess he just wasn't ready, or good enough, to help them win. The 2001 Colts were doing allright until they lost Edgerrin James to a torn ACL. And when they lost him, it was down the tubes. 651764[/snapback] Tom Brady was no the starting QB at this time. Some guy named Bledsoe was. Brady was just a late round, develepmental project, rookie quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoog Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 After reading the thread title, I couldn't bring myself to reading any of it, or the replies. I could just think of one thing... UT... You are a dip$hit! McB G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglytuna Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 Wasn't Tom Brady on the team when the Patriots went 5-11 in 2000? I guess he just wasn't ready, or good enough, to help them win. The 2001 Colts were doing allright until they lost Edgerrin James to a torn ACL. And when they lost him, it was down the tubes. But, there was a positive. By being 6-10, the Colts got to draft Dwight Freeney. 651764[/snapback] So are you saying the Colts success goes to Edgerrin James? Why did the Colts lose 4 games this year? Ugly Tuna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsfan04 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 (edited) Nice comeback, but in my book, the era begins when the person takes over the team/starting job. 5-11 Signified the end of the Drew Bledsoe error. Someone else mentioned on this thread that home field advantage is something that is earned, not given. Brady's Playoff Record: 6-0 overall Home 3-0 Road 1-0 Neutral 2-0 Manning's Playoff Record: 3-4 overall Home 2-1 Road 1-3 Indy's playoff record is getting much better, and I am just hoping the Pats can eak this one out. Edited January 12, 2005 by Patsfan04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglytuna Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 Nice comeback, but in my book, the era begins when the person takes over the team/starting job.5-11 Signified the end of the Drew Bledsoe error. Someone else mentioned on this thread that home field advantage is something that is earned, not given. Brady's Playoff Record: 6-0 overall Home 3-0 Road 1-0 Neutral 2-0 Manning's Playoff Record: 3-4 overall Home 2-1 Road 1-3 Indy's playoff record is getting much better, and I am just hoping the Pats can eak this one out. 651784[/snapback] Not to mention the Brady is undefeat in overtime.... Remember Colts fans Denver didn't even deserve to be in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 So are you saying the Colts success goes to Edgerrin James? Why did the Colts lose 4 games this year? 651783[/snapback] No. I never said that. In 2001 the loss of Edgerring James, combined with the loss of several defensive players, led to the 6-10 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Remember Colts fans Denver didn't even deserve to be in the playoffs. 651785[/snapback] I wondered when the Manning haters would decide why last week's game didn't count. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Brady's Playoff Record: 6-0 overallHome 3-0 Road 1-0 Neutral 2-0 651784[/snapback] Well, as long as we're giving credit where it's due, isn't that road win at Pittsburgh really Drew Bledsoe's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglytuna Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 Captain, Tell me who are the underdogs on Sunday, the Super Bowl Champs or the Colts? Enough Said, your starting to sound like Vanderjerk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Keep talking while you can. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglytuna Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 Keep talking while you can. . . 651803[/snapback] Hey I never said Manning was a great QB. I measure success of a QB by the rings on his fingers. Forever in my mind Montana will always be better then Marino. Can you argue both ways? sure...but your pulling hairs.. In the modern day NFL, Brady is Montana and Manning is Marino and Favre is Elway,. Uglyness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsfan04 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Well, as long as we're giving credit where it's due, isn't that road win at Pittsburgh really Drew Bledsoe's? 651793[/snapback] Brady started the game, and left with a lead (I believe a 14-3 lead). I will give him the win. And UT has driven me from this topic, you should do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 So who is better, Dilfer or Marino? Favre or Bradshaw? Brad Johnson or Jim Kelly? Mark Rypien or Dan Fouts? Your argument holds no water, as the QB's play doesn not always translate into Super Bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Brady started the game, and left with a lead (I believe a 14-3 lead).I will give him the win. 651832[/snapback] Actually it was 7-3, with the TD coming on a Troy Brown punt return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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