budlitebrad Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 (edited) Now that Brees is a Saint, all I've been hearing is that they will go after Mario in the draft. Doesn't make much sense to me, but I'm a Cheesehead looking out for the team and I tend to have a man-crush according to my brother. I could see the Jets take him if Abraham is gone, but they could want a QB. Anyone hear anything different? Edited March 14, 2006 by budlitebrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Now that Brees is a Saint, all I've been hearing is that they will go after Mario in the draft. Doesn't make much sense to me, but I'm a Cheesehead looking out for the team and I tend to have a man-crush according to my brother. I could see the Jets take him if Abraham is gone, but they could want a QB. Anyone hear anything different? 1369496[/snapback] I'd imagine D Ferguson if they don't trade down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I think they will try and trade down with the Jets. I hope they do. If not they have Grant and Will Smith, 2 top defensive ends, so I agree with Avernus(they take Ferguson) or they could take Hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 New Orleans needs Hawk in the worst way. he could single handedly change the environment of that LB corp, and to pair him up with Fujita, and Fincher or Watson, would be a solid upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 John Clayton just said he heard the Saints want Mario. We may get Hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted March 15, 2006 Author Share Posted March 15, 2006 As much as it would pain me to see Mario go somewhere else, getting "stuck" with Hawk ain't too shabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordo Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 John Clayton just said he heard the Saints want Mario. We may get Hawk. 1369707[/snapback] Clayton also flat out stated that Culpepper would be traded before free agency started and also said that Brees was going to sign with Miami. His credibility is nil right about now ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9ersdude Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) Oh please Santa...give the 49ers Super Mario for Christmas......or for the draft or what the he!! ever...you know what i mean. Edited March 15, 2006 by 9ersdude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Clayton also flat out stated that Culpepper would be traded before free agency started and also said that Brees was going to sign with Miami. His credibility is nil right about now ... 1369711[/snapback] he's usually right around the ballpark and pretty accurate, though... Miami would have got Brees if the Raiders, titans and some other team weren't scared off by the high price of Culpepper and traded for him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Clayton also flat out stated that Culpepper would be traded before free agency started and also said that Brees was going to sign with Miami. His credibility is nil right about now ... 1369711[/snapback] Those were guesses. He said people told him such and such so I don't think he is lying. They could be BS'ing him to hide their true intentions, but I don't see why. Frankly I would think they would want Brickashaw or Hawk. Why a DE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Why a DE? 1369871[/snapback] cause they are the saints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 cause they are the saints 1369879[/snapback] this is true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ksu70 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I just watched a piece on ESPN witha guy from New Orleans (either the color guy or a news reporter) who says the buzz is all about Mario Williams. He did note that if they took him it would be the fifth DE they have taken in the first round in the last seven years and it has not really panned out. The guy liked Hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Dbrick, AJ Hawk, and Williams will go to NO, SF, and GB (in no specific order) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lions suck Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 He did note that if they took him it would be the fifth DE they have taken in the first round in the last seven years and it has not really panned out. The guy liked Hawk. Sounds like the Lionesses recievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote Quimby2 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 see him going as early at the number 2 spot and as late as the 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I just watched Sportscenter, Cold Pizza, and Total Access and all of them alluded to the Saints taking Williams. There's just no way. No team should be happier with their two starting DEs than New Orleans. Plus, they have so many other needs elsewhere that they don't even have the luxury of taking the best player available -- assuming they believe Williams is "better" than Ferguson or Hawk (which is definitely debatable). If the old coaching staff were still in place, MAYBE you could argue the team prefers to rotate 3 solid DEs, but that's not the case. It's just a silly notion. Would they keep Williams in the game for all 3 downs, but then platoon their other first-round DEs? It's not a very worthwile draft strategy. They should stay put and draft Ferguson. With him and Jammal Brown, their O-line would be solidified for a decade. I think Hawk would be an excellent fit there, too, but I just can't see paying a rookie LB a signing bonus in the high teens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 As much as it would pain me to see Mario go somewhere else, getting "stuck" with Hawk ain't too shabby. 1369709[/snapback] No kiddin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOO Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Doubt seriously that they stay at #2. I assume they will be looking to go down a few spots (5-8 range ) to get Hawk. If they absolutely have to stay at #2, I don't see them taking anyone other than Ferguson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Ferguson is the smart move...Mario and Hawk are the greedy moves... can't go wrong with any of these guys, but Brees will not fare too well without an OL.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) Ferguson is the smart move...Mario and Hawk are the greedy moves... can't go wrong with any of these guys, but Brees will not fare too well without an OL.. 1370736[/snapback] Agreed. But lets be honest... Their LB's are just so terrible, Hawk could imedietly turn it around. If I were the Saints, I'd go Hawk. The gaping hole at Linebacker is just too big to ignore. Edited March 15, 2006 by kpholmes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordo Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 ... He did note that if they took him it would be the fifth DE they have taken in the first round in the last seven years and it has not really panned out. ... 1370069[/snapback] Not even close to being true (in either respect - the numbers or the players "not really panning out"): 05 - Jamaal Brown, OT 04 - Will Smith, DE 03 - Jonathon Sullivan, DT 02 - Donte Stallworth, WR and Charles Grant, DE 01 - Deuce McAllister, RB 00 - no first round pick, took Darren Howard, DE with 2nd round pick 99 - Ricky Williams, RB 98 - Kyle Turley, OT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordo Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Ferguson is the smart move...Mario and Hawk are the greedy moves... can't go wrong with any of these guys, but Brees will not fare too well without an OL.. 1370736[/snapback] What is your insistence on posting about the Saints, a team you obviously have little to no true knowledge of ? Hawk a "greedy" move ? LB is the most urgent need this team has. Ferguson's a great talent, and they may end up taking him, but with Gandy and Brown, the OT spots are not a glaring need. Holy heck man, do you just like to hear yourself talk ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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