Dirty Weasel Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Last year in my league, here's how many pts were scored by the top 10 defenses: Panthers - 304 Bears - 302 Steelers - 268 Giants - 264 Seahawks - 260 Colts - 254 Vikings - 254 Broncos - 248 Jaguars - 246 Buccaneers - 239 The lowest 5 teams were: Texans - 152 Saints - 158 Raiders - 167 Patriots - 172 49ers - 186 As you can see, the top teams do have a huge advantage over the bottom teams. I decided to crunch some numbers to see who I would consider the top 10 for this year, and here's what I've come up with (based on last year's stats and this year's opponents): 1 - Chicago Bears 2 - Carolina Panthers 3 - Seattle Seahawks 4 - Minnesota Vikings 5 - New York Giants 6 - Indianapolis Colts 7 - Pittsburgh Steelers 8 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers 9 - Jacksonville Jaguars 10 - Baltimore Ravens In no way am I saying this is a list of the 10 best defenses. This list is FF-wise based on last year's numbers, and how their opponents this year gave up FF points to defenses last year. Now comes my question...From this list of 10, which defenses improved, which stayed the same, and which got better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DO Jaded Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 (edited) Obviously Seattle has gotten better. You moved them up from 5th to 3rd. Oh, and Julian Peterson added to the core that is still there also helps. Edited April 10, 2006 by DO Jaded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 (edited) 1 - Chicago Bears2 - Carolina Panthers 3 - Seattle Seahawks 4 - Minnesota Vikings 5 - New York Giants 6 - Indianapolis Colts 7 - Pittsburgh Steelers 8 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers 9 - Jacksonville Jaguars 10 - Baltimore Ravens In no way am I saying this is a list of the 10 best defenses. This list is FF-wise based on last year's numbers, and how their opponents this year gave up FF points to defenses last year. Now comes my question...From this list of 10, which defenses improved, which stayed the same, and which got better? 1411533[/snapback] Minnesota #4. above both Pittsburgh and Baltimore? How? They lost Corey Chavous, Cowart and Brian Williams and gained Tank Williams. I don't see them i nthe top 10 unless they get better replacements. Edited April 9, 2006 by Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Minnesota #4. above both Pittsburgh and Baltimore? How? They lost Corey Chavous, Cowart and Brian Williams and gained Tank Williams. I don't see them i nthe top 10 unless they get better replacements. 1411986[/snapback] Agreed. I don't know if I'd even have Baltimore or Minnesota on this list to begin with. Carolina and Chicago will again be the cream of the crop. The Seahawks have certainly improved and merit a spot in the top 5. Tampa Bay and the Steelers will again be very solid and should be higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 evaluating defenses is pretty tough anyway but what scoring does your league (or this list) consider? It is not until you add in "points allowed" or "yards allowed" that defenses begin to become reasonably predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 I haven't thought too much on this yet but I know I'm putting the Falcons in there somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Weasel Posted April 9, 2006 Author Share Posted April 9, 2006 Minnesota #4. above both Pittsburgh and Baltimore? How? They lost Corey Chavous, Cowart and Brian Williams and gained Tank Williams. I don't see them i nthe top 10 unless they get better replacements. 1411986[/snapback] The numbers I came up with are based on last year's stats and this year's opponents for each team. I was just as shocked as you to see Minny ranked way up there, but this list hasn't taken into account any player losses/gains for this year. Do I think Minny will finish at #4? No way, Jose! I would draft about 12-15 teams before them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Weasel Posted April 9, 2006 Author Share Posted April 9, 2006 evaluating defenses is pretty tough anyway but what scoring does your league (or this list) consider? It is not until you add in "points allowed" or "yards allowed" that defenses begin to become reasonably predictable. 1411997[/snapback] Here is the scoring my league uses: Fumble Recovery - 2 Interception - 2 Interception Return Yards - 1 point for every 10 Blocked Field Goal - 2 Blocked Extra Point - 2 Sack - 2 Safety - 2 Shutout - 8 Total Net Yards Allowed (0-199) - 8 Total Net Yards Allowed (200-259) - 6 Total Net Yards Allowed (260-319) - 4 Total Net Yards Allowed (320-379) - 2 Defensive & Special Teams TD - 6 And under those scoring rules, Minny ended up 7th last year, I swear. Then I calculated the avg pts given up last year to defenses by each team. It turns out that Minny has a great defensive FF schedule, and they ended up moving into the 4th spot for this year. But, like I said, it's all just stats based on last year. No player moves for 2006 have been factored in. The list is just meant to be a starting point to figure out which teams may move up or down on the list. And yes, I have Minny moving way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 I calculated the avg pts given up last year to defenses by each team. It turns out that Minny has a great defensive FF schedule, and they ended up moving into the 4th spot for this year. But, like I said, it's all just stats based on last year. No player moves for 2006 have been factored in. The list is just meant to be a starting point to figure out which teams may move up or down on the list. And yes, I have Minny moving way down.1412083[/snapback] Solid post Dirty. Good job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 I have Minny moving way down. 1412083[/snapback] I agree - I would move them way down: New Coaches, New Scheme (Tampa 2) - Defensive ends need to be solid in that defense - Udeze and James??? Linebackers - too many question marks now - whos playing where and how each one will fit into the new defense. Corners and Safety are probably the only solid unit out there. Special teams - its all new. Not sure who will be returning kicks or punts this year. Basically its to early to tell on alot of this stuff until training camp and beyond... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 And under those scoring rules, Minny ended up 7th last year, I swear. 1412083[/snapback] In the HAG leagues they were 7th too but there the Giants were #1, the Titans were #4 and Rams were #5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Weasel Posted April 9, 2006 Author Share Posted April 9, 2006 In the HAG leagues they were 7th too but there the Giants were #1, the Titans were #4 and Rams were #5. 1412107[/snapback] In my league STL and TEN finished just out of the top 10. Nuts, huh? The STL defense is pitiful, but somehow they managed to score FFL points. I think I will be moving Atlanta and Washington up into my top 10 list, but I will still have Chicago and Carolina as the frontrunners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 evaluating defenses is pretty tough anyway but what scoring does your league (or this list) consider? It is not until you add in "points allowed" or "yards allowed" that defenses begin to become reasonably predictable. 1411997[/snapback] maybe we can see analysis on that basis at some point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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