isleseeya Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 am very proud of the giants effort tonight ...they could have sat guys , rested starters and laid down but they played hard ....played hard all night long ...they made pats earn it...which pats did ... Congrats to pats fans and for giant fans hope this effort allows for a good playoff run for Big Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 am very proud of the giants effort tonight ...they could have sat guys , rested starters and laid down but they played hard ....played hard all night long ...they made pats earn it...which pats did ... Congrats to pats fans and for giant fans hope this effort allows for a good playoff run for Big Blue Easy to say now as they Giants dodged the injury bullet ... but had Eli, Jacobs, Burress or any other key player sustained an injury that prevented them from playing in next week's game you'd be singing a different tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Easy to say now as they Giants dodged the injury bullet ... but had Eli, Jacobs, Burress or any other key player sustained an injury that prevented them from playing in next week's game you'd be singing a different tune. come on that works for both teams....imo, the Pats had MUCH more to lose by risking their star starters then the Giants did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 come on that works for both teams....imo, the Pats had MUCH more to lose by risking their star starters then the Giants did The Pats have been refusing to pull starters in games all year ... nobody expected them to do any different in this game, especially with the undefeated regular season on the line. But it would have been interesting to see the reaction had Brady broke a leg in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 come on that works for both teams....imo, the Pats had MUCH more to lose by risking their star starters then the Giants did werd It's not like the Giants were expected to make a bunch of noise in the play-offs. In fact, I think their best chance of making any noise was to go into the play-offs on the kind of roll inspired by beating a team like the Pats. They gave it their best shot and came up short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 werd It's not like the Giants were expected to make a bunch of noise in the play-offs. In fact, I think their best chance of making any noise was to go into the play-offs on the kind of roll inspired by beating a team like the Pats. They gave it their best shot and came up short. Do you really believe the Giants think "they aren't going to make a bunch of noise in the playoffs"? And if the Giants believe they can win the SB (like PIT did a couple of years ago) then why the hell would they risk key players in a meaningless regular season game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'canes2004 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 The Giants played hard. Hats off to them. On the other hand, no way will Eli ever win a big game IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Do you really believe the Giants think "they aren't going to make a bunch of noise in the playoffs"? And if the Giants believe they can win the SB (like PIT did a couple of years ago) then why the hell would they risk key players in a meaningless regular season game? [herm]You play to win the game[/herm] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 [herm]You play to win the game[/herm] The ultimate goal is to win the SB ... a W or L in ths game made zero difference to the ultimate goal of winning the ultimate game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 The ultimate goal is to win the SB ... a W or L in ths game made zero difference to the ultimate goal of winning the ultimate game. If you've already won 3 SBs in the past 6 years and have a very good chance to go 19-0, I'd say that the rules change somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 If you've already won 3 SBs in the past 6 years and have a very good chance to go 19-0, I'd say that the rules change somewhat. I have to disagree. Going 16-1, 17-1 or 18-1 invalidates the whole undefeated season thing. Losing a game in the playoffs just means that NE had a soft schedule and couldn't finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Do you really believe the Giants think "they aren't going to make a bunch of noise in the playoffs"? And if the Giants believe they can win the SB (like PIT did a couple of years ago) then why the hell would they risk key players in a meaningless regular season game? The ultimate goal is to win the SB ... a W or L in ths game made zero difference to the ultimate goal of winning the ultimate game. So, momentum and confidence has nothing to do with going all the way? Face it, the Giants were hardly in a position where they could just sit back and wait for the play-offs to start. They were completely shut down by Minn's D and Manning was bailed out by his running game and D last week vs Buffalo. That's hardly "building up steam for the play-offs". I'm amazed that it seems like such a bold move to try and win a "world beater" type game to catch some fire before the play-offs. The other Manning doesn't need to worry about that kind of thing. Dude is locked and loaded. Eli, not so much. He needed this game and he needed his team trying to win around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Easy to say now as they Giants dodged the injury bullet ... but had Eli, Jacobs, Burress or any other key player sustained an injury that prevented them from playing in next week's game you'd be singing a different tune. Jacobs or Burress, sure. Not so sure about Eli - he reminds me of Rex. The evil twin keeps showing up between quarters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 (edited) I have to disagree. Going 16-1, 17-1 or 18-1 invalidates the whole undefeated season thing. Losing a game in the playoffs just means that NE had a soft schedule and couldn't finish. Or somebody bested them late in the year. If they make it to the SB and lose a game like the famous Miami/SD/Kellen Winslow getting carried off the field kind of game does that mean they "had a soft schedule and couldn't finish"? I completely agree, the short list of the greatest teams of all time really only includes teams that won the SB, but like others have said, the last few years have done enough to cement this team as among the greatest of all time, 19-0 puts them in their own category. I mean, no debate about which specific team is the best ever gets far. You end up settling on the Packers of the 60s, Steelers of the 70s, Niners of 80s, Cowboys of the 90s. For the most part, teams are ranked by eras. The Pats of the 00s don't need to worry about whether they'll be on that list. Edited December 30, 2007 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 I have to disagree. Going 16-1, 17-1 or 18-1 invalidates the whole undefeated season thing. Losing a game in the playoffs just means that NE had a soft schedule and couldn't finish. The Pats have missed the playoffs ONCE over the past seven years and have THREE rings over that timespan. Winning a Super Bowl is great, but they've already been there and done that just recently. Given all of that, willfully throwing away a chance to be the best EVER by going 19-0 is something that one absolutely cannot do. Plus, if Belichick pulled his starters in the third quarter and the Giants went on to win, there would be death threats against him. So there's a practical side to it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trots Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Congrats to the Pats and their fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyb7 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Congrats to the Pats and their fans. Being a fan that remembers being eight years old sitting on aluminum benches at Foxboro in freexzing rain when they were getting trounced makes it all that much sweeter. Congrats to the pats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 The Pats have missed the playoffs ONCE over the past seven years and have THREE rings over that timespan. Winning a Super Bowl is great, but they've already been there and done that just recently. Given all of that, willfully throwing away a chance to be the best EVER by going 19-0 is something that one absolutely cannot do. Plus, if Belichick pulled his starters in the third quarter and the Giants went on to win, there would be death threats against him. So there's a practical side to it as well. How would it be the best ever? Doesnt perfection=perfection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 I didn't see the game. I just want to know how a team that looked like absolute crap against an average Vikings team was able to hang so close to the undefeated Pats. The NFL is just plain strange from week to week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 How would it be the best ever?Doesnt perfection=perfection? 19-0 > 17-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 I didn't see the game. I just want to know how a team that looked like absolute crap against an average Vikings team was able to hang so close to the undefeated Pats. The NFL is just plain strange from week to week. You can go with the standfard response from close games against the Pats,the other team played their best game possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 19-0 > 17-0 100%-100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 The Giants have played like crap over the past few weeks, especially Eli. They needed to play all their starters tonight, and they played 3 quarters of excellent football. But once again Eli and the gang show their true colors and choke like we all knew they would. There is no way I'm going to take my hat off to this team, you have to finish the game, that's what champions do. I wish it was a blowout in the first half so I could stop watching and my hopes wouldn't be built up. Next year, do us a favor, just go 3-13 and fire the coach and get a top draft pick (preferably a QB), don't tease us with another playoff berth that we all know they are going to lose in the 1st round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 The Giants have played like crap over the past few weeks, especially Eli. They needed to play all their starters tonight, and they played 3 quarters of excellent football. But once again Eli and the gang show their true colors and choke like we all knew they would. The Giants offense certainly didn't choke tonight. Even Eli was pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Was nice to see the records fall in a game that the Giants were competing to win. Every TD was important, and was not a blatant attempt to run up the score or set records. And the starters played. I can respect that. I still hate the Pats, but I respect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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