hooknladder Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 ...................--".not again!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) Dungy got his ring and is probably going to end up in the HoF. Oh yeah, and he's rich as Croesus. I'm sure he's just fine. Edited January 24, 2010 by Chavez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wpob Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dungy got his ring and is probably going to end up in the HoF. Oh yeah, and he's rich as Croesus. I'm sure he's just fine. Agreed. Dungy is fine. I met him here at work during SNF and he is a classy and extremely nice man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Agreed. Dungy is fine. I met him here at work during SNF and he is a classy and extremely nice man. And he wants to be with his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do Work Son Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 He knew what he was leaving.... I agree he's probably doing just fine and probably pretty excited that the colts are in the superbowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 obviously Tony Dungy is fine and doing what he wants to do. -he also knows what he left behind....but the fact is he essentially put together two additional superbowl teams, for which he will get no credit in football history....-( years down the road). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Maybe he's just better at putting them together than he is at finishing the job? Obviously he did once. But is this squad significantly more talented than any of the other Colt teams who didn't make it to the Bowl under Dungy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 (edited) Maybe he's just better at putting them together than he is at finishing the job? Obviously he did once. But is this squad significantly more talented than any of the other Colt teams who didn't make it to the Bowl under Dungy? no, just say'n once again he had a hand in putting at least some of this current squad together and probably deserves some of the credit -(which he will not get down the road). Edited January 29, 2010 by hooknladder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 no, just say'n once again he had a hand in putting at least some of this current squad together and probably deserves some of the credit -(which he will not get down the road). And I'm just saying that maybe it's not a coincidence that two teams have now gone to the Bowl after he left. If we're going to give him credit for setting the table, perhaps it is also fair to question whether or not finishing the deal was his strongest suit. Maybe we need to look at the GMs involved in putting these teams together or, if it was really Dungy, that he'd be a better GM than coach. I'm not saying any of this is certainly the case, just throwing it out there as something that is only fair to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 It's definitely bigger than Dungy's versions. Let's face it, a team with Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, and Gary Brackett as starters is gonna be undersized. But they have beefed up the DT's, and they rotate a couple bigger DE's in on running downs. They also blitz more than Dungy ever did. Conversely, the running game is worse, and they have had more turnovers from Manning than previous Dungy-led teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 (edited) Maybe he's just better at putting them together than he is at finishing the job? Obviously he did once. But is this squad significantly more talented than any of the other Colt teams who didn't make it to the Bowl under Dungy? The 2009 Colts team may not be as good as their previous teams, but one thing to consider is that their postseason opponents were a lot less talented than the ones that the Colts had to play in previous playoffs. This year's Colts playoff run did not include games with their nemeses the Patriots nor the Chargers, two teams and head coaches that had eliminated the Colts repeatedly in the last six years. Neither the 2009 Ravens nor the 2009 Jets were as good as those Patriot and Chargers playoff teams that Dungy coached against. In my opinion, the 2005 Colts were the best team that Tony Dungy coached that should have won it all. It was also the same year that Tony Dungy's son took his own life late in the season. I'm not saying that's why they lost, but it was a difficult distraction. Besides 2006, the rest of the Colts teams from this decade were not the best team of that year. Here's a quick summary of the Colts playoff run with Tony Dungy. 2002 - Lost to NY Jets in the Wild card game 41-0 - In Tony Dungy's first year as Colts head coach, he led a team into the post season. The team did not make the playoffs in the two seasons before. 2003 - The Colts lost to New England Patriots 24-14 in the AFC Champtionship. The Patriots won the Superbowl. 2004 - Playoff lost to New England Patirots 20-3. Patriots won the Superbowl. 2005 - Playoff lost to Pittsburgh Steelers 21-18. Steelers won the Superbowl. The Colts were 14-2 in the regular season, and were the clear favorites that year to win it all. It was also the same year that Tony Dungy's son committed suicide during the season. 2006 - The Colts get over the hump and beat the Patriots in the AFC Championship 38-34. The Colts go on to win the Superbowl. 2007 - Playoff lost to the San Diego Chargers 35-24. The Patriots were clearly the dominant and best AFC team that year. 2008 - Wild Card lost to the San Diego Chargers 23-17 - Colts got off to a slow start that year with Peyton Manning coming back from major knee surgery. Edited January 29, 2010 by electricrelish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 The Colts got ripped off in San Diego last year. Those 3 third down calls that gave the Chargers first downs in overtime were atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Doesn't he still work for the club in some capacity? If so, wouldn't he get a ring? It's not just the players and coaches is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Doesn't he still work for the club in some capacity? If so, wouldn't he get a ring? It's not just the players and coaches is it? Just the 53-man active roster and the coaches automatically get rings. The team can choose to also give rings to other players (such as those on IR) and other staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 and they have had more turnovers from Manning than previous Dungy-led teams.I don't think that's the result of Dungy not being there and Caldwell leading the team. I think it has more to do with a rookie and sophmore WR starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Just the 53-man active roster and the coaches automatically get rings. The team can choose to also give rings to other players (such as those on IR) and other staff.Are you sure about that? This page mentions in the right sidebar that the NFL pays for up to 150 rings @ $5k each. I was under the impression that was one of the reasons why Shawne Merriman decided to go against all the doctors opinions, play one game, and then have season ending surgery so that he would be assured he'd get a ring if the Chargers won the Superbowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Are you sure about that? This page mentions in the right sidebar that the NFL pays for up to 150 rings @ $5k each. I was under the impression that was one of the reasons why Shawne Merriman decided to go against all the doctors opinions, play one game, and then have season ending surgery so that he would be assured he'd get a ring if the Chargers won the Superbowl. The key phrase is "up to". The team can elect for less rings. The Chargers could have given Merriman a ring if they wanted to had they won the SB. All I said was the minimum required for the team for give out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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