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3 hours ago, League_Champion said:

 

And perhaps a coach/OC who can put him in a better position to make plays. Teams are dialed in on him right now. 

noooo, don't quote bobby, i have that less humorous version of stevegrab on ignore.

but yes, a HC/OC who can't coach up an OL means the personnel dept is broken. Regardless, I'd continue and continue to draft/acquire OL until my line was dominant and then I'd draft a QB. How many potentially great QBs failed because they were destroyed?

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19 minutes ago, LordOpie said:

noooo, don't quote bobby, i have that less humorous version of stevegrab on ignore.

but yes, a HC/OC who can't coach up an OL means the personnel dept is broken. Regardless, I'd continue and continue to draft/acquire OL until my line was dominant and then I'd draft a QB. How many potentially great QBs failed because they were destroyed?

 

Way too many

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6 hours ago, League_Champion said:

 

And perhaps a coach/OC who can put him in a better position to make plays. Teams are dialed in on him right now. 

On Thursday night it certainly seemed like he was trying to hit a big play on almost every pass.  Holding onto the ball waiting for long route trees. Didn't see many quick hitting routes.

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1 hour ago, Bobby Brown said:

On Thursday night it certainly seemed like he was trying to hit a big play on almost every pass.  Holding onto the ball waiting for long route trees. Didn't see many quick hitting routes.

 

I agree 100%. He never takes what they give him. I think bringing in OBJ was a huge mistake. It changed the entire dynamic. 

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On 10/11/2019 at 9:36 PM, Bobby Brown said:

O lineman bust at a higher rate than any other position.

 

Curios what you base that on, because I'd say QB is first, and I thought OL would be on the lower end.

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1 hour ago, stevegrab said:

 

Curios what you base that on, because I'd say QB is first, and I thought OL would be on the lower end.

I'll see if I can find an article I posted on here a couple years ago. Due to the rise of the spread offense in college,  O-line play doesn't translate to the NFL very well.  It went through several years of recent data and a very low percentage of high draft picks were still starters.  I should have stated high draft picks in o lineman are one of the higher bust rates.  Point being, it's simply not an easy task to draft an effective O-line.  Here is a more recent article that doesn't go into great detail, but mentions that teams are starting to invest less into that position in earlier rounds. 

 

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/offensive-linemen-are-no-longer--safe-picks-

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Today against the Hawks; Cleveland has the ball in the redzone with under 2 minutes and an 8 point lead.  Instead of bleeding the clock, with an opportunity to go up 11 or 15 at half, Baker hurries his team to the line and immediately throws an INT in the endzone.  Seattle then closes out the first half with a long TD drive.

 

Incredibly bad decision making.

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47 minutes ago, Bobby Brown said:

Today against the Hawks; Cleveland has the ball in the redzone with under 2 minutes and an 8 point lead.  Instead of bleeding the clock, with an opportunity to go up 11 or 15 at half, Baker hurries his team to the line and immediately throws an INT in the endzone.  Seattle then closes out the first half with a long TD drive.

 

Incredibly bad decision making.

 

Agree. He can only go by the script. Once he has to think it's over. Teams are all over him now, they've figured him out. 

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5 hours ago, turbotooslow said:

I was such a Baker believer (Bengals fan here) but even when he is good he's bad.

 

I think he'll eventually figure it out. It almost looks as if he has no coaching whatsoever. 

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