muck Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 And, again, there is a big difference between tourney poker and a cash game. A cash game, Pat calls each and every time. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 And, again, there is a big difference between tourney poker and a cash game. A cash game, Pat calls each and every time. Right? There is no situation I can fathom where you would fold aces preflop in a cash game... well, no realistic situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Another reason why I love stealing pots at bubble time in a tourney. Everyone is tight as a drum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 There is no situation I can fathom where you would fold aces preflop in a cash game... well, no realistic situation. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 +1 here's my take ... if the smooth button pre-called the re-raiser with his big pocket pair in hand, then i'm thinking that i'm going to lessen the odds by flopping to avoid my hand getting cracked. if that doesn't float and i'm having a hard time reading him, then i push all in, but only if i've got ladies in the bag. if all else fails, i push hard with the Big Slick and then lay it down. interested in your thoughts. i know it's a bit unconventional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 (edited) Another reason why I love stealing pots at bubble time in a tourney. Everyone is tight as a drum Yup... agreed 100%. Hard to do if you hit the bubble as a real shortstack, but, if you are not afraid to miss out on the money it is the best time to really grow your stack with well times pushes as a short stack, and lots of position raising as a medium to large stack. In fact, in the last 4 tournies where I finished in the top 3 (150-200 player tournies), I made my biggest strides right before the bubble, where I was picking up the blinds probably 4 out of 10 hands. The other one I actually got crippled right before the bubble when my KK ran into aces, but, through some luck and right cards at the right time, came back to make a strong run at the final table. Edited March 22, 2007 by Big Country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 here's my take ... if the smooth button pre-called the re-raiser with his big pocket pair in hand, then i'm thinking that i'm going to lessen the odds by flopping to avoid my hand getting cracked. if that doesn't float and i'm having a hard time reading him, then i push all in, but only if i've got ladies in the bag. if all else fails, i push hard with the Big Slick and then lay it down. interested in your thoughts. i know it's a bit unconventional. I have no idea what you are talking about, sir. I simply agreed that there is no conceivable time that I would ever lay down AA pre-flop in a cash game. I could most definitely lay down the rockets pre-flop in a tournament if it was close to the bubble and I was trying to money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I have no idea what you are talking about, sir. that was kind of my point ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 here's my take ... if the smooth button pre-called the re-raiser with his big pocket pair in hand, then i'm thinking that i'm going to lessen the odds by flopping to avoid my hand getting cracked. if that doesn't float and i'm having a hard time reading him, then i push all in, but only if i've got ladies in the bag. if all else fails, i push hard with the Big Slick and then lay it down. interested in your thoughts. i know it's a bit unconventional. well played - that is some funny chit. Maybe the most solid poker analysis in the thread............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Pat!!! Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 There is no situation I can fathom where you would fold aces preflop in a cash game... well, no realistic situation. Correct, never have and never would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 Correct, never have and never would. Well, if my opponent pushes in ahead of me then shows pocket jokers just kidding. The only situation I can think of is when multiple (like 5 or 6) opponents have pushed in ahead of me, and they all show their cards, one has the other aces, and the others all show combinations of pairs and suited connectors that I am virtually guaranteed of having no shot to win the pot that I may consider laying it down. But, like I said before, no realistic situation in a cash game would have me laying down AA preflop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy n Dirty Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 here's my take ... if the smooth button pre-called the re-raiser with his big pocket pair in hand, then i'm thinking that i'm going to lessen the odds by flopping to avoid my hand getting cracked. if that doesn't float and i'm having a hard time reading him, then i push all in, but only if i've got ladies in the bag. if all else fails, i push hard with the Big Slick and then lay it down. interested in your thoughts. i know it's a bit unconventional. That's f'n funny dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 I slipped down to The Grand in Tunica last night for a few hours after work. Bought in for $500 in the $2/$5 NL cash game. We had a full table for the 4 hours or so I was there. About half the table was regulars who all know each other. About 4 or 5 of us were not regulars and I was leery of playing at this table but it was the only 2/5 game going when I go there. Cashed out with a $650 profit so it was a nice night at the table. Couple memorable hands. I have been playing for an hour or two and am down to $350. On the button I get the Hooks. I make the standard raise at this table to $20. 2 callers, one of which is a horrible player that I have waited the whole time to get into a hand with. He had been calling down everything so I am anxious to connect on the flop or bet 3 unders hard. The other guy in the hand is a very tight solid player who is sitting next to me. Flop comes J 8 3 rainbow, giving me top set. I ask the guy next to me that I have been joking with the whole time, "what will it take for me to be to get you to lay this hand down". He says "$75". So, I say, " I bet $70" and he laughs out loud and immediately folds. I then pretend like I am going to scoop the pot and then announce, " OH, I sorry I thought we were the only ones in the hand or I wouldnt have been talking". Total f'n act on my part. The bad player immediately calls. Turn is an 8 filling up my boat. Against this calling station, no way to check to trap. I bet out $100. He immediately calls. I dont recall the river but I push the rest of my stack in for ~$150. This idiot immediately calls but doesnt show when he sees he is beaten, AGAIN. Another hand again on the button, I pick up 77. I just call. Flop comes 7 3 10 rainbow giving me a set. I check/call a $15 bet. Turn comes another 3 giving me the boat. I check/call a $50 bet. River is a blank. I bet out $50. The guy thinks about it and raises me another $50. I re-raise him to $100. he goes all in for another $150. I call. He had a 3 7 giving him 3's full of 7's, while I had 7's full of 3's! Those were my 2 largest pots of the night. I lost several smaller ones but left up $650 so I am not complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Let me also add that I have found the 1/2 and 2/5 NL games in Tunica to be fairly soft, most of the time. If any of you guys are ever heading that way, send me a pm and I will give you the lowdown on the poker rooms there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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