Dr. Love Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 The Commander-In-Chief made me take her to see this on Saturday. It was most excellent, and I highly recommend it. Good acting, likeable characters, captivating storyline, and nice special effects combine for a thoroughly entertaining film. After reading some of those "FW:FW:FW:Movie Wants to Kill God" emails, I expected the characters to be wiping their asses with a crucifix. I suppose that if one tried hard enough, one could draw a parallel between the Majesterium (the bad guys in the movie who are in charge of things) and the Catholic church, but I doubt that I would have made the connection if I hadn't heard about it beforehand. If there is an anti-religion theme, it's very subtle, and it's only there if you want to find it. I recommend seeing The Golden Compass. If you avoid it because of the supposed anti-God theme, you're only cheating yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Yeah, the mrs. and I want to see that one soon... thanks for the review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 yah i really want to see it especially because the religious kooko's in this country say its bad ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 The books were good. I'll try to catch it over the holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 yah i really want to see it especially because the religious kooko's in this country say its bad ... coincidentally, they're usually right. think of the movies they've gotten the most pissed off about: last temptation of christ - major snoozefest da vinci code - nice mullet, mr. hanks priest - totally forgettable disney movie about a gay priest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill Nuts Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 It doesn't take a whole lot for the "JAIZUS!!" crowd to mess themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 It doesn't take a whole lot for the "JAIZUS!!" crowd to mess themselves sure, but on the other hand, there was quite a lot of handwringing when it came to "passion of the christ" as well, so it cuts both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 coincidentally, they're usually right. think of the movies they've gotten the most pissed off about:last temptation of christ - major snoozefest da vinci code - nice mullet, mr. hanks priest - totally forgettable disney movie about a gay priest. havnt seen any of those but they also didn't like harry potty, lord of the rings and other magic stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 coincidentally, they're usually right. think of the movies they've gotten the most pissed off about:last temptation of christ - major snoozefest da vinci code - nice mullet, mr. hanks Nah, those two movies were going to suck based on who was the lead actor and who directed it. Neither has done anything good since Toy Story(if that even lovely counts) and Lethal Weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 My wife and I are having an argument about this movie. I said I wanted to see it and she immediately exclaimed that it was an evil movie and the churches are all warning people to stay away. The story line is anti-god or some such thing. The author is an aethist ... to which I responded "so what". It looks like a fantasy flick to me ... much like several others I have seen. I told her that she had a similiar reaction to the Harry Potter series exclaiming that the author was espousing witch craft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 havnt seen any of those but they also didn't like harry potty, lord of the rings and other magic stuff harry potter is the debbil! but tolkein has long been a favorite of the christian establishment, like his friend c.s. lewis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 sure, but on the other hand, there was quite a lot of handwringing when it came to "passion of the christ" as well, so it cuts both ways. Forcing kids to see an R rated movie is an issue that had little to do with religion. But, they aren't my kids... so it's all cool with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 coincidentally, they're usually right. think of the movies they've gotten the most pissed off about:last temptation of christ - major snoozefest da vinci code - nice mullet, mr. hanks priest - totally forgettable disney movie about a gay priest. havnt seen any of those but they also didn't like harry potty, lord of the rings and other magic stuff DaVinci code wasn't bad (though Hanks's hairstyle most definitely was). Harry Potter was very good. Most people didn't think much of the other films Az mentions. I think it's a stretch to say that the thumpers are "usually right". sure, but on the other hand, there was quite a lot of handwringing when it came to "passion of the christ" as well, so it cuts both ways. What you write off as "handwringing" were legitimate concerns about factual inaccuracies and how passion plays have historically incited waves of anti-semitism. It's not like there was some huge secular uproar when The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe came out. That's a fantasy movie that's pro-Christian, and it's done in a manner that is far, far more overt than anything in The Golden Compass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Forcing kids to see an R rated movie is an issue that had little to do with religion. i don't remember that being an issue. i remember the anti-semitism being the major issue, with all sorts of people who weren't evangelical christians, not just with the joos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I'll probably see it, regardless of what my church has to say. Perhaps I'll be more willing to take their advice on movies when they're more willing take my advice to quit protecting child-molesting priests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 What you write off as "handwringing" were legitimate concerns about factual inaccuracies and how passion plays have historically incited waves of anti-semitism. It's not like there was some huge secular uproar when The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe came out. That's a fantasy movie that's pro-Christian, and it's done in a manner that is far, far more overt than anything in The Golden Compass. i'm not sure i understand your reasoning. if a christian makes a movie that supposedly paints jews in a bad light, there are "legitimate concerns". but if an atheist makes a movie that paints the church in a bad light, it's different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 i'm not sure i understand your reasoning. if a christian makes a movie that supposedly paints jews in a bad light, there are "legitimate concerns". but if an atheist makes a movie that paints the church in a bad light, it's different? yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 i heard it's another overblown, special effects heavy movie that really doesn't go anywhere. critics have been harsh. i'd have more respect for it if they didn't actively tone down the anti-religious themes which are more prevalent in the book. we have enough movies out there that are low on vision/message and high on wow! effects. at least have the nads to stand for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) i'd have more respect for it if they didn't actively tone down the anti-religious themes which are more prevalent in the book. Did you actually read the books? I did and missed the whole connection altogether. Edited December 10, 2007 by DemonKnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 i'm not sure i understand your reasoning. if a christian makes a movie that supposedly paints jews in a bad light, there are "legitimate concerns". but if an atheist makes a movie that paints the church in a bad light, it's different? If The Passion was released as a work of pure fiction, I'd say that there was no difference. However, it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy n Dirty Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 coincidentally, they're usually right. think of the movies they've gotten the most pissed off about:last temptation of christ - major snoozefest da vinci code - nice mullet, mr. hanks priest - totally forgettable disney movie about a gay priest. Going back a ways here, but I thought Monty Python's Life of Brian was worth seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Going back a ways here, but I thought Monty Python's Life of Brian was worth seeing. Holy Grail ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Did you actually read the books? I did and missed the whole connection altogether. no, i just read a newsweek article ... and i slept at a holiday inn last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Did you actually read the books? I did and missed the whole connection altogether. one other thought ... you may not be too smart ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I think where the people are creating awareness about this movie is with the books, not the movie. Not reading the books, I understand that the books eventually have the main characters killing God. And this movie can be exploited to get the kids to see a cool, kick ass movie, and then ask for the books for Christmas. In a holiday that celebrates the birth of Jesus, they are trying to say that these books eventually send the wrong message....so it's not the movie they are upset about, it's the potential that exists that if the kids love the movie, they'll want the books, and the books are written by an atheist that holds nothing back with his beliefs, and he would love to have children make up their minds about whether they need God in their lives...that's what these religious groups are upset about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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