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we officially have become a socialist state


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lol....how is this socialistic....making it illegal...which it already was...to manipulate the market. You can't pump and dump either...is that ban socialistic?

 

 

so when you short a stock, you are manipulating it?? explain that please. you are taking a position that you think that stock is crap. how is that any different taking a long position? every short seller is a crook?

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so when you short a stock, you are manipulating it?? explain that please. you are taking a position that you think that stock is crap. how is that any different taking a long position? every short seller is a crook?

 

A very rough reading of your link suggests nothing of the like. What it suggests is that there are those who would short the stock to cause a price fluctuation that would benefit them....that is not the same as an investor making a speculative move....there is a difference between market manipulation and investing and speculating. The link you posted suggested that on trades the SEC feels are manipulative, they will investigate and start to actually prosecute...kudos....markets are free and should be free from manipulation.

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Ahh, we've had a socialist state ever since FDR started his alphabet-soup and then packed the supreme court to ensure the "constitutionality" of it. I didn't even read the link...

 

Why wouldn't socialism be constitutional....why would capitalism be constitutional? Please explain how our constitution picks one over the other?

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Why wouldn't socialism be constitutional....why would capitalism be constitutional? Please explain how our constitution picks one over the other?

 

 

Because the constitution only grants limited, specific powers to the federal government? And those not granted are limited to the states or the people?

 

:wacko: I'm arguing with the guy that expects us to take his word for it that the Japs surrendered before we bombed them. :D

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History would've been so much better if we dropped the bomb, they surrendered, we dropped another one, they surrendered again, and we dropped yet another one. They were so full of pride and vowed to fight until the last man and all. :wacko:

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Because the constitution only grants limited, specific powers to the federal government? And those not granted are limited to the states or the people?

 

:wacko: I'm arguing with the guy that expects us to take his word for it that the Japs surrendered before we bombed them. :D

 

What does that have to do with anything...believe what you will.

 

Actually, the power of taxation and regulation of interstate commerce is distinctly a federal issue....and the constitution is not clear on whether it should be treated with socialistic gloves or capitalistic gloves. Seems to me the constitution leaves open any and all choices...NO?

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What does that have to do with anything...believe what you will.

 

Actually, the power of taxation and regulation of interstate commerce is distinctly a federal issue....and the constitution is not clear on whether it should be treated with socialistic gloves or capitalistic gloves. Seems to me the constitution leaves open any and all choices...NO?

 

 

No - the constitution is set up to expressly forbid getting involved in the employee-employer relationship if it occurs within a single state. You might want to read some federalist and anti-federalist papers before spouting your devils advocate crap.

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No - the constitution is set up to expressly forbid getting involved in the employee-employer relationship if it occurs within a single state. You might want to read some federalist and anti-federalist papers before spouting your devils advocate crap.

 

Actually...i will stick to reading Article One, Two and Three....you can read papers that really present nothing but some peoples feelings on the subject...the document is question was the one ratified...not the federalist papers. But you knew that.

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Ahh, we've had a socialist state ever since FDR started his alphabet-soup and then packed the supreme court to ensure the "constitutionality" of it. I didn't even read the link...

Roosevelt did eventually appoint eight Supreme Court justices as a result of his being in office for 13 years but his "court packing" bill itself failed. The effect, however, was to make the Supreme Court as it was constituted at the time, less political - they had been routinely destroying New Deal legislation designed to pull the country out of the Depression and make the life of Joe Worker better in the name of "supporting the Constitution". What the conservatives on the Court actually were was political puppets of those favoring the status quo.

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July 17 (Bloomberg) -- Stock and options exchanges plan to

seek an exemption for market makers in a U.S. rule aimed at

preventing manipulation in shares of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and

17 Wall Street firms, people familiar with the matter said.

The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is conducting

conference calls with brokerages and exchanges to discuss the

rule that will limit the ability of traders to bet on a drop in

share prices using abusive tactics. Exchange officials told

regulators yesterday that without an exemption, market makers

responsible for pairing off investor orders will struggle to

keep transactions flowing and may raise costs for investors.

``Without a market-maker exemption, I could see this having

a profoundly negative impact on the liquidity that would be

provided in stock and derivatives,'' said Steve Sosnick, an

equity risk manager in Greenwich, Connecticut, for Timber Hill

 

:D:wacko::D

 

there is hope for us yet!!!

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Oh, I thought this was gonna say that we now have universal health care, free post-secondary education, and stuff like that. :wacko:

 

 

Pop quiz...Which country spends more on health care per person than any other country?

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The US. I blame it on all of the pit bull attacks.

 

Which country ranks the highest in quality of health care?

 

 

Nova Scotia

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