Azazello1313 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Why are we funding the 2010 census with a stimulus bill? why try and get a project done for the amount originally budgeted when you can hire twice as many people and spend borrow three times as much money to do the same job? don't you understand stimulating the economy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 why try and get a project done for the amount originally budgeted when you can hire twice as many people and spend borrow three times as much money to do the same job? don't you understand stimulating the economy? I'm beginning to understand quite clearly. No, it's not a surprise. I naturally hoped that something as serious as the ailing economy would break the "business as usual" mode in Washington. Silly me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Oh noooo!!!! WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama warned on Thursday that failure to act on an economic recovery package could plunge the nation into a long-lasting recession that might prove irreversible, a fresh call to a recalcitrant Congress to move quickly. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090205/ap_on_...ss_stimulus_126 Uhm... does anyone actually believe this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Uhm... does anyone actually believe this? I don't doubt we're facing a serious problem. I am very doubtful that stimulus packages like the one the House passed and the one the Senate is mulling over will do squat to change the economic tide. I fear the "we'll, that didn't work, let's try a bigger one" argument that is surely coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I'm actually optimistic. Once this stimulus gets shredded by the Republicans in the house, they should mesh it out to where it should become a pretty good "best of both worlds" document. I think they are still trying to find a common ground between trickle-down and socialism. The one thing we do know here is that something needs to be done. Even though I am traditionally liberal, I don't see major tax cuts to the poor as a tool that will ultimately change tons of things going forward. We can't sit and do nothing though. We need action quickly, but more than ever, that action has to be the correct one. Again, I am optomistic that the revised plan that comes out of the wash has a chance to both help people get back to work, and hopefully will also put some money back in the hands of the investors. IMO both liberals and conservatives need to stop bitching, get optimistic, and lets get this thing fixed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 This isn't the time to throw money and see what sticks, it needs to be well thought out. Since the last administration couldn't think at all, throwing money at the wall was their only option. Boy was it good to be rich in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Oh noooo!!!! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090205/ap_on_...ss_stimulus_126 Uhm... does anyone actually believe this? I have been taught by the government that I should be afraid of everything, so yes I do believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Why are we funding the 2010 census with a stimulus bill? Jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I've heard a figure that for every dollar of tax cuts, it equates to $3.5 towards GDP growth. If that is indeed the case, go for some tax cuts which will IMMEDIATELY be felt in everyone's paychecks. You know, instead of buying new furniture and stuff for gov't agencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Take the home weatherization program. On CNN Obama argued that this $6 billion program was nonnegotiable because: "First of all, you can employ people weatherizing those homes." But Obama announced plans to weatherize a million homes a year last summer. Except back then it was touted as part of a plan to create a "clean energy future" — not as a jobs program. How about investment in health information technology? In his Blueprint for Change, issued in August, Obama vowed to "Make an upfront investment of $50 billion in electronic health information technology systems to reduce errors, and save lives and money." So why is this now a nonnegotiable part of a stimulus package? Ditto the $1 billion in "Comparative Effectiveness Research" in the stimulus bill. Last year, Obama called that "a comprehensive effort to tackle health care disparities" to cut health care costs. Lies, Lies and more lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Why are we funding the 2010 census with a stimulus bill? the pentagon has enough $7,000 hammers. they need to spread it around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoMan Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Regardless of which side of the aisle you sit, this bill is full of pork. Given our country's economic problems, it would have been nice if Congress could have actually acted responsibly instead of pulling their usual tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Jobs Jobs, huh? The census is already a budgeted process. Why would we suddenly need an extra billion and more people to do it? This is idiocy at its finest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 the pentagon has enough $7,000 hammers. they need to spread it around. are you sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Jobs, huh? The census is already a budgeted process. Why would we suddenly need an extra billion and more people to do it? This is idiocy at its finest. http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2008/04/07/ce...-more-money.htm According to that they will hire about 750,000 people. Let's say they make $8/hr to do this. The total to pay all of those workers for 1 hour of work would be $5,760,000. That's going to be pretty fun to figure out how much the total wages would be since they seem to be working from March to June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2008/04/07/ce...-more-money.htm According to that they will hire about 750,000 people. Let's say they make $8/hr to do this. The total to pay all of those workers for 1 hour of work would be $5,760,000. That's going to be pretty fun to figure out how much the total wages would be since they seem to be working from March to June. So the $1 billion slated for the CB wll support 750,000 jobs that will only last a couple of months? I knew this was a short-sighted bill, but that's silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 Jobs, huh? The census is already a budgeted process. Why would we suddenly need an extra billion and more people to do it? This is idiocy at its finest. Dude, you're arguing with watertard - idiocy should be expected. So the $1 billion slated for the CB wll support 750,000 jobs that will only last a couple of months? I knew this was a short-sighted bill, but that's silly. +1. Just for the record, does anyone think that the cencus WON'T be funded fully if it isn't in this bill? I rest my case - it's extra PORK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Screw spending. Let's cut the capital gains tax! Oh wait...what capital gains... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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