dmarc117 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Vice President Joe Biden, well-known for his verbal gaffes, may have finally outdone himself, divulging potentially classified information meant to save the life of a sitting vice president. According to a report, while recently attending the Gridiron Club dinner in Washington, an annual event where powerful politicians and media elite get a chance to cozy up to one another, Biden told his dinnermates about the existence of a secret bunker under the old U.S. Naval Observatory, which is now the home of the vice president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 And people were worried about Palin being a heartbeat away from the presidency. I'll bet the CIA just cringes every time they have to brief him on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Link? Lemme guess....another fascinating news story from that mecca of impartiality, Fox News? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) Link? Lemme guess....another fascinating news story from that mecca of impartiality, Fox News? http://news.aol.com/main/politics/article/...bunker%2F486555 keep guessin Eleanor Clift, Newsweek magazine's Washington contributing editor, said Biden revealed the location while filling in for President Obama at the dinner. Edited May 18, 2009 by dmarc117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 http://news.aol.com/main/politics/article/...bunker%2F486555 keep guessin Hmmm...looks like you found an link that picked up on the original story. But based on the slanted text you cut and pasted in the original post, it came from here. The original Newsweek story linked in your snippet was not demeaning to Biden in any way. Do I still need to keep guessing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) Hmmm...looks like you found an link that picked up on the original story. But based on the slanted text you cut and pasted in the original post, it came from here. The original Newsweek story linked in your snippet was not demeaning to Biden in any way. Do I still need to keep guessing? so fox reporting on it makes it false? nice try. the guy is an idiot. all sides know this. Edited May 18, 2009 by dmarc117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Hmmm...looks like you found an link that picked up on the original story. But based on the slanted text you cut and pasted in the original post, it came from here. The original Newsweek story linked in your snippet was not demeaning to Biden in any way. Do I still need to keep guessing? Why not just comment on the issues instead of deflecting? Is it really that hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Why not just comment on the issues instead of deflecting? Is it really that hard? What is the issue, other than trying to find yet another meaningless reason to complain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 so fox reporting on it makes it false? nice try. the guy is an idiot. all sides know this. Yes, our Vice President is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 What is the issue, other than trying to find yet another meaningless reason to complain? Well the location is no longer secret, so presumably they will have to build another one. I'm guessing that isn't going to be free. Also is the information classified? Wasn't there a real big stink a few years ago about a vice president possibly leaking classified information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Well the location is no longer secret, so presumably they will have to build another one. I'm guessing that isn't going to be free. Also is the information classified? Wasn't there a real big stink a few years ago about a vice president possibly leaking classified information? Intentional vs Foot in Mouth-itis which Biden is known for. Putting himself at risk vs outing undercover CIA ops and ruining years of ground work. You didn't care then, why is it suddenly important now, and with something far less egregious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 If it actually happened, it's pretty F'n stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Intentional vs Foot in Mouth-itis which Biden is known for. Putting himself at risk vs outing undercover CIA ops and ruining years of ground work. You didn't care then, why is it suddenly important now, and with something far less egregious? I'd say being so stupid as to do it on accident is more disconcerting than doing it intentionally. Also I wasn't making a big deal about it. I had already read the story and hadn't planned on commenting about it. My original post in this thread wasn't even stating an opinion on the issue, but rather asking someone to comment on the issue instead of deflecting. It wasn't until I was specifically asked what the issue was that I commented on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 he should do this everytime........ http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de3_1242658313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I am shocked to learn that the VP's residence might have an underground bunker... whoever would have guessed that? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/17...ommentscomments In December 2002, neighbors complained of loud construction work being done at the Naval Observatory, which has been used as a residence by vice presidents since 1974. The upset neighbors were sent a letter by the observatory's superintendent, calling the work "sensitive in nature" and "classified" and that it was urgent it be completed "on a highly accelerated schedule." Residents said they believed workers were digging deep into the ground, which would support Biden's report of a secret bunker, but officials never confirmed the purpose of the work performed. It's pretty cool that Cheney was able to hang out in a secret bunker before it was even built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 It's pretty cool that Cheney was able to hang out in a secret bunker before it was even built. The story does have the Michelle Obama "Whitey" feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Link? Lemme guess....another fascinating news story from that mecca of impartiality, Fox News? You could easily insert NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,MSNBC,Larry King,The Daily Show and the list goes on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 You could easily insert NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,MSNBC,Larry King,The Daily Show and the list goes on and on. The Daily Show is a satire; and as far as the rest, they don't have near the track record as Fox of printing unconfirmed political rumor as a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 The Daily Show is a satire; and as far as the rest, they don't have near the track record as Fox of printing unconfirmed political rumor as a story. ....or slanting the truth with biased rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 The Daily Show is a satire; and as far as the rest, they don't have near the track record as Fox of printing unconfirmed political rumor as a story. Your kidding right? Wasn't it 60 Minutes that ran a bogus story about Bush right before the election? Acording to this UCLA (they are pretty conservative right) report, the media in general leans left. Fox actually is one of the more fair and ballanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 (edited) The Daily Show is a satire; and as far as the rest, they don't have near the track record as Fox of printing unconfirmed political rumor as a story. ....or slanting the truth with biased rhetoric. does fox reporting on this make it false? Edited May 18, 2009 by dmarc117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 who cares where cheney is living anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Your kidding right? Wasn't it 60 Minutes that ran a bogus story about Bush right before the election? Acording to this UCLA (they are pretty conservative right) report, the media in general leans left. Fox actually is one of the more fair and ballanced. I can search the internets too, and could keep on going, but it's really a waste of time: News outlets including CNN cited a study of several major media outlets by a UCLA political scientist and a University of Missouri-Columbia economist purporting to "show a strong liberal bias." But the study employed a measure of "bias" so problematic that its findings are next to useless, and the authors -- both former fellows at conservative think tanks cited in the study to illustrate liberal bias -- seem unaware of the substantial scholarly work that exists on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 does fox reporting on this make it false? Not at all....but inserting their opinion of the facts makes it biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 This kind of stuff is what makes discussing politics seem useless. A simple story like this and people get off on tangents about the media being biased and untruthful. Did Biden say it or not? That is all we need to know - A yes or no answer is sufficient. If any media asked Biden I am guessing you would not get a yes or no answer. How hard is it to just report the truth?? Why even vote when you can't even get a legimate answer to a question in most of the debates. Who knows what each candidate is really for and what will they really do when nobody can just be honest. All it ever tunrs into is a stupid right wing versus left wing pissing match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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