gilthorp Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Keg...what's going on with this guy? Is it going to get any better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I'm at the point now where I have to drop him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) Keg...what's going on with this guy? Is it going to get any better? I haven't really seen enough Giants games this year to comment on how his play looks to the naked eye....but I did pull some numbers from the past few years....before I post them I am going to guess that Osi is healthy but has lost enough of a step from his injuries to make him just a fraction of a second slower and that means missing tackles and sacks versus getting them... as far as snaps go he is playing a prominent role (perProFootballFocus) Osi has played in 77% of the Giants defensive snaps (206 of 267) I took a look at his previous production and IDP TOP and here is what I found: Yr...........Tackles.........Sacks........IDP TOP 04..............58..................7............... .073 05.............70.................14.5........... .924 06.............31.................. 6.............. .058 (11 games played, missed 5 due to injury) 07.............52.................13.............. .073 08 out due to injury 09............13...................3................ .055 (thru 6 games) Tackle Ops faced since 04 04:790 05:757 06:537 in 11 games(16 game pace was 781) 07:714 08:NONE 09:238 thru 6 games(16 game pace is 635) So the only conclusion I can come too is that Osi while Osi has seen a decrease in his production that the limited number of tackle ops will probably keep him from bouncing back much if at all....fwiw, the diff between his .073 TOP in 07 and .055 TOP this year would be about 1 tackle/game so that would give hope of him being able to put up a pace of the 52 tackles and 13 sacks that he did in 07 but unfortunately even if he made such a minor change in his production it doesnt look like he will be able to see enough of an uptick in his TOs to get him to those types of 07 totals...unfortunately, what I think I am saying is that Osi owner (including me) are going to be disappointed for much of the rest of this year EDIT: just checked and it looks like 7 of their next 10 games are against teams that are giving up below average tackle opps Edited October 19, 2009 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 Thanks...it's not looking good, and since this is a limited IDP format, I can go and grab Charles Grant, Kerney, or a slew of others. Against the backup LT yesterday, I figured we'd see more of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Thanks...it's not looking good, and since this is a limited IDP format, I can go and grab Charles Grant, Kerney, or a slew of others. Against the backup LT yesterday, I figured we'd see more of him. you know what made him special, imo was the fact that he had the tackles to go with the sacks...without the tackles he becomes another "Dwight Freeney" who can rack up sacks but isnt a good fantasy play because he is to inconsistent with recording tackles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 Thought I was saavy grabbing him this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Thought I was saavy grabbing him this year... I also thought I was saavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I also thought I was saavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 I have no choice now...have to turn my season around and this guy is giving me nothing. I'll have to dig deep to find someone worth while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I have no choice now...have to turn my season around and this guy is giving me nothing. I'll have to dig deep to find someone worth while. Dropped him last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 you know what made him special, imo was the fact that he had the tackles to go with the sacks...without the tackles he becomes another "Dwight Freeney" who can rack up sacks but isnt a good fantasy play because he is to inconsistent with recording tackles Yeah, I was going to say something similar. The tackle opportunities are important, but those were the gravy to his meat and potatoes (sacks, forced fumbles, etc.). But if he's not getting the tackles, the meat and potatoes shrink, so to speak. He says that his knee is 100%, but I tend to think that may not be true. If anything, though, he does admit that it's a mental issue and perhaps his knee - even if 100% healthy - is holding him back. I own him in a league and while I may sit him in certain situations, I can't drop him and will feel fine in starting him 'cuz he can turn it around at any time. Or at least I hope he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 I can't drop him. Anyone on the wire worth having over him have byes next week....I'll run with him two more weeks, and then replace him in Week 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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