dmarc117 Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/06/l-a-m...wo-days-a-week/ http://www.californiahealthline.org/articl...-over-500b.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Legalized it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Texas having trouble too. Estimates of the budget hole range from a very conservative figure of $11 billion to more than $15 billion. Budget cuts are already in the offing. State leaders are expected to pull the trigger soon on about $1 billion in spending trims, which could include prison guard layoffs and reduced payments to doctors and other Medicaid providers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 (edited) Legalized it!! It sure will save on the cost to keep all those people in prison. ok so i'm not a pot smoker but i agree with the state selling it and getting all the tax revenus off it! this would close the budget and keep people employed. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out. People are doing it anyways and have been for hundreds of years, why does it take the goverment forever to figure out a solution its right in front of your face people. Posted by: christina for realz Edited April 6, 2010 by WaterMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 $4.7 Billion of Texas' problem could be done away with if all the illegals were deported. It would probably be more than that as that only figures in the cost of education, health care, and incarceration. If you figure the sales taxes lost by all the money illegals send back to Mexico that would stay here if those positions were filled by American workers it would a save another $1 Billion. Texas will be fine. We will make some cuts and raise the sales tax temporarily as we currently have one of the lower state tax burdens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 $4.7 Billion of Texas' problem could be done away with if all the illegals were deported. Texas businesses would suffer from diminished profits. I thought you were pro business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Texas businesses would suffer from diminished profits. I thought you were pro business. I'm for the rule of law. Also I don't think business owners would lose nearly as much as you think. Do you like subsidizing these shady businesses by paying for their employees health care, and their kids education? I don't. I am pro-business, pro-legal business. I'm also convinced that most of us would end up better off for having a cheaper tax bill or more services for our taxes actually going to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 If you figure the sales taxes lost by all the money illegals send back to Mexico that would stay here if those positions were filled by American workers it would a save another $1 Billion. Illegals don't buy stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Illegals don't buy stuff? Based on a study I read not to long ago it said the average illegal sends 20% of his income back to Mexico. We don't get sales tax on that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Texas having trouble too. That's only because Obama is our president. Haven't you ever heard of La Raza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Based on a study I read not to long ago it said the average illegal sends 20% of his income back to Mexico. We don't get sales tax on that money. But you DO on the 80% that stays here . . . right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Based on a study I read not to long ago it said the average illegal sends 20% of his income back to Mexico. We don't get sales tax on that money. And 80% gets spent. Will you really fill all those jobs from American labor? BTW, I'm no fan of illegal immigration as I've said many times but there needs to be some method of importing low-wage labor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) Based on a study I read not to long ago it said the average illegal sends 20% of his income back to Mexico. We don't get sales tax on that money. What's 100% minus 20%? Edited April 7, 2010 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 Texas having trouble too. Estimates of the budget hole range from a very conservative figure of $11 billion to more than $15 billion. Budget cuts are already in the offing. State leaders are expected to pull the trigger soon on about $1 billion in spending trims, which could include prison guard layoffs and reduced payments to doctors and other Medicaid providers. illinois is a close second. good times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 illinois is a close second. good times! http://www.swivel.com/workbooks/20788-FY20...Budget-Deficits More like Arizona... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) And 80% gets spent. Will you really fill all those jobs from American labor? BTW, I'm no fan of illegal immigration as I've said many times but there needs to be some method of importing low-wage labor. First off, most of the low wage labor is in agriculture, yet immigrants only make up 28% of the agriculture workforce. That means that 72% of that work force is currently supplied by American labor. If the illegals were all deported overnight (as if it could happen that fast) there would be a labor void which would increase demand for labor. Based on the laws of supply and demand this would increase wages for these low wage jobs in order to fill the need. At the same time employers would look at ways to eliminate some of the jobs they would be having difficulty filling. The result would be blue collar workers making more money (a lib like you would have to like that), but each one would be more productive (which makes a conservative like me happy). Immigration of unskilled workers, particularly illegal immigration holds down natural wage growth. Interestingly enough minimum wage laws weren't introduced until the 1930's following the mass immigration of the 1920s. I'm sure that is just a coincidence. Any way immigration serves as subsidy for a low wage, low productivity business model that hampers technological advancement and productivity growth. if illegals were deported and immigration was limited to skilled workers that are self supporting then the cost of good would go up a little bit, but the cost on society would go down significantly. Soon the increased cost would equalize and we would all be more prosperous. Workers would make slightly more, business owners would be able to expect more productivity, and it would spur technological growth. Sure there would be some short term discomfort, but that pales in comparison to the troubles we will have in the next 30 to 40 years if we don't start doing something to slow down the immigration of unskilled labor, particularly unskilled labor that does not in many cases pay taxes, and is much more likely to use our social services, and break our laws (not just immigration laws). Edited April 7, 2010 by Perchoutofwater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I'm sorry, but legalizing Josh Gordon and deporting illegal aliens are some pretty short-sighted band-aids. Fiscal responsibility anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Margaret Thatcher: "socialism is a great idea till you run out of other peoples money"... nice quote there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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