Should the Media complain about Reid's Parenting Skills?

[MikesVikes]

Jason Whitlock thinks he's getting off too easily for not being a good father. I think that's crossing the line.

 

 

 

 

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[forever in debt to mo lewis]

how long until the "jonathan brady caught smuggling 89 pills in his huggies" rumor is floating around?

[MikesVikes]

Another question. Do you think that the media would be softer on him if his team was undefeated right now? And how ironic would that be?

[forever in debt to mo lewis]

Another question. Do you think that the media would be softer on him if his team was undefeated right now? And how ironic would that be?

 

i would like to remind the nation of huddlers that bill belichicks son was arrested for possesion of Josh Gordon last year...just in case you needed more fuel

[kingfish247]

i would like to remind the nation of huddlers that bill belichicks son was arrested for possesion of Josh Gordon last year...just in case you needed more fuel

Belichick is no father of the year but I don't remember any evidence of Belichick's son possessing or property of Belichick containing... an array of prescribed and illegal drugs in the family vehicles, heroin, testosterone, cocaine, OxyContin, Josh Gordon, needles, pills, drug scale, guns and ammunition. I also don't recall Belichick's son waxing poetic about parading around like some wannabe thug.

 

I'm not questioning Reid or his wife's parenting skills, or lack thereof, because a judge presiding over the case raised that legitimate concern considering the facts. It's not like Whitlock pulled the question out of thin air.

 

Belichick's son was caught with a "small amount" of Josh Gordon. These two situations don't seem comparable.

Edited November 8, 2007 by kingfish247

[forever in debt to mo lewis]

Belichick is no father of the year but I don't remember any evidence of Belichick's son possessing or property of Belichick containing... an array of prescribed and illegal drugs in the family vehicles, heroin, testosterone, cocaine, OxyContin, Josh Gordon, needles, pills, drug scale, guns and ammunition. I also don't recall Belichick's son waxing poetic about parading around like some wannabe thug.

 

I'm not questioning Reid or his wife's parenting skills, or lack thereof, because a judge presiding over the case raised that legitimate concern considering the facts. It's not like Whitlock pulled the question out of thin air.

 

Belichick's son was caught with a "small amount" of Josh Gordon. These two situations don't seem comparable.

 

haha..i know they arent...i was kidding around...no sweat

[xtra]

The media crosses the line everywhere and hands down one sided view after one sided view.They dont have a clue what is really going on 9 times out of 10,but they can crucify whoever they like and people will believe every word of it.

 

Unless the media has been in the Reid house since the day the kids were born,they dont have a clue.But they have their opinions and thats all this is.

Edited November 8, 2007 by xtra

[kingfish247]

haha..i know they arent...i was kidding around...no sweat

No prob

 

The media crosses the line everywhere and hands down one sided view after one sided view.They dont have a clue what is really going on 9 times out of 10,but they can crucify whoever they like and people will believe every word of it.

So the judge presiding over the case doesn't have a clue?

Edited November 8, 2007 by kingfish247

[boltnlava]

Life can sideswipe ANY head coach at ANY time ...I can't see how kicking Reid in the head repeatedly while his family is in turmoil would help matters any. Whatta Mess ...poor guy.

[xtra]

No prob

So the judge presiding over the case doesn't have a clue?

 

I didnt see Andy Reid being punished for a crime.

The Judge had an opinon,just because he is a Judge it doesnt make it true.We have no idea what he heard,who said it,who was or wasnt lying,nothing.Just his opinion from what he heard.

[tonyr0802]

IMO it's a clear case of the media simply trying to stir chit up. I realize that being in Reid's position opens him up to this, but the media in general has pushed the line too far in cases like this to the point where they think it's ok. The man's an NFL head coach, report on that- not his family life.

[xMRogers]

I really don't understand some of this.

 

First, Reid's "children" are in the early 20's - these aren't 14 year old going crazy. Heck, the one kid seems to have gone downhill ever since he became an adult. This really isn't a parental responsibility issue nearly as much as it's being made into - if you didn't know their ages, you would definitely assume by all the press comments about "Reid as a parent" that they are teenagers.

 

Second, yes, they still live at home, and the "drug emporium" issue is a problem....except you have to remember the circumstance. Reid and his wife were on vaca in California at the time - his f'd up kids had the house to themselves. I can only hope that the drugs and guns lying around weren't normal, but no way to really know.

 

Third, I keep hearing "if it was a player, there would be hell to pay"....I can't disagree more - if Vinny Testy's kids were doing the same thing, no one would say a word about Testy being suspended or something (he was the only one I could think of old enough to possibly have a 22 year old son). If you saying if the player was doing what his sons are doing (ie, PacMan) - yes, they are in trouble, but then the comparison is Reid to PacMan's father - don't think PacMan's dad was suspended.

 

Last - yes, it's news - it's news like anything else is news - celebrity family in trouble. However, as the person(s) with the problem aren't actually in the NFL in any way but by relations, not sure why anyone keeps bringign it up past it being an NFL news item, and possibly a HUGE distraction (that part of this is a different discussion). And the "leader of young men" concept I've heard once or twice is a joke - this is the NFL - coach the team to victory, try to keep the players out of jail - that's about it. They are out of school

[godtomsatan]

I really don't understand some of this.

 

That is painfully obvious in your comments.

 

First, Reid's "children" are in the early 20's - these aren't 14 year old going crazy. Heck, the one kid seems to have gone downhill ever since he became an adult. This really isn't a parental responsibility issue nearly as much as it's being made into - if you didn't know their ages, you would definitely assume by all the press comments about "Reid as a parent" that they are teenagers.

 

You don't think adult behavior stems (in part) from the environment one was raised? Look at yourself for a moment and think about that.

 

Second, yes, they still live at home, and the "drug emporium" issue is a problem....except you have to remember the circumstance. Reid and his wife were on vaca in California at the time - his f'd up kids had the house to themselves. I can only hope that the drugs and guns lying around weren't normal, but no way to really know.

 

A two week vacation doesn't result in a pharmacy popping up in the kids' bedroom.

 

Last - yes, it's news - it's news like anything else is news - celebrity family in trouble. However, as the person(s) with the problem aren't actually in the NFL in any way but by relations, not sure why anyone keeps bringign it up past it being an NFL news item, and possibly a HUGE distraction (that part of this is a different discussion). And the "leader of young men" concept I've heard once or twice is a joke - this is the NFL - coach the team to victory, try to keep the players out of jail - that's about it. They are out of school

 

#1, it is news in the sense that it's an interesting angle to look at a public figure. #2, media people really ought not be discussing the matter as this was a private matter. #3, that column was not well written, and he was calling out his colleagues in the media more than he was Andy Reid.

[Savage Beatings]

From the beginning of Training Camp until each team is done playing football for the season, every professional football coach is pretty much absent from their family for 6 out of 7 days a week. Not just the Head Coach, but all team coaches. That's their life. All of their families suffer to some degree. Sure they make good money doing what they love... but there is a definite sacrifice that professional football REQUIRES of it's coaches and players.

 

I can't see the league going after a coach whose family is screwed up in large part due to the dysfunction that the league schedule helps to create.

[kingfish247]

The fact that the Reid boys are adults and make their own decisions is a valid point. Any parent can't be held accountable for what their adult children do. The difference is when those children are living in their parent's home and receiving their support.

 

Reid and his wife can't keep tabs on his adult boys 24/7. That's unreasonable. But what they can do, if they've had problems in the past, is not give their sons a place and support to engage in their illegal activities. This isn't exactly an isolated incident with them apparently (it's not boys being boys while their parents are out of town). Admittedly, they've been dealing with this for years.

 

OK. Now the judge, and the media, are asking how is it that the parents can go on business as usual while the boys are still living with them and receiving support in order to stockpile drugs in their home. They are public people with private lives, I agree. But a public official publicly questioned whether the boys should be allowed to return to their parents' home after their sentences are up. This is extraordinary considering most judges would be happy for anyone being released to go back to a stable family environment.

 

I don't see how raising those concerns is kicking Reid while down. They're valid concerns for a family that's in crisis. I wish them well and all the best. If that means Reid stepping down from his notoriously busy job that requires tons of travel, time, and concentration... so be it. It's only a job and it's only football.

Edited November 8, 2007 by kingfish247

[LooGie]

Life can sideswipe ANY head coach at ANY time ...I can't see how kicking Reid in the head repeatedly while his family is in turmoil would help matters any. Whatta Mess ...poor guy.

I totally agree. Anyone who is a parent knows you can't control your kids 100% of the time, and my kids are only 7 and 4.

 

When a child keeps drugs in a car, or at a friends house, theres not a lot a parent can do to figure it out.

Kicking Reid right now, would be the same as if someone kicked Dungy after his kid killed himself. Obviously all the kids mentioned in this post have/had problems and have made some seriously bad decisions and went a route they shouldn't have. All children mentioned in this post obviously thought they were old enough to make the decisions for themself, and low and behold, they were ALL the wrong decisions.

 

edit: and i think this judge should be as harshly criticized as Reid was, because it just wasn't a fair statement. I think the judge was just jealous of Andy's celebrity status, or he's a Cowboy fan. Seriously. Shame on that judge.

Edited November 8, 2007 by LooGie