mxnrelxn Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I've never sued anyone and wouldn't for anything petty, but after being ripped off for the third time while playing fantasy football at Yahoo and seeing plenty of others get ripped off at Yahoo also, I'm trying to figure out my options. Just because Yahoo says it's a private league, are they right? -I don't think so, nor does my lawyer. 1) I have complained to Yahoo about being ripped off on multiple occasions and have been ignored each time. 2) Can criminals really expect to keep getting away with stealing? 3) By ignoring complaints made by people in "private" leagues, is Yahoo an accessory to crime? Yahoo terms of service call for lawsuits to be decided in California. Small problem since I'm in Virginia, but not a huge problem. You guys ready for the first lawsuit against Yahoo or what? It's about to be filed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v0dka Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 How are you getting ripped off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPIchamp Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 You talking about joining a private league where everyone agrees to put into a pot, you send the money via PayPal or mail a check to them, then the commish doesn't pay out the money to the winner(s)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxnrelxn Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 You talking about joining a private league where everyone agrees to put into a pot, you send the money via PayPal or mail a check to them, then the commish doesn't pay out the money to the winner(s)? -Yes, sorta. My lawyer maintains these leagues are not private, since anyone can join. Therefore, Yahoo is partly responsible for the theft. Especially since they won't divulge information about the criminal(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 how much money are we talking about? if it's significant, why would you send that to someone you didn't know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Smurf Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 He's an disgruntled idiot. Let's move along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sacrebleu Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 -Yes, sorta. My lawyer maintains these leagues are not private, since anyone can join. Therefore, Yahoo is partly responsible for the theft. Especially since they won't divulge information about the criminal(s). I think that a lot of us wold love to hear what the basic issue is that you have and your argument for suing Yahoo in more detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbforbes Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 how much money are we talking about? if it's significant, why would you send that to someone you didn't know? I've got to agree with Jackass. You've got to at least do a bit of investigating before you dole out more than a token amount of cash on the internet. And unless your attorney can find some statute or contractual provision that permits you to recoup attorneys fees, I doubt any efforts, whether they be in California or even Virginia, would be cost effective. But best of luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 1) I have complained to Yahoo about being ripped off on multiple occasions and have been ignored each time. And what are they suppose to do? Shut down the league...and another one just pops up? Any "dues" for the league is done off line. Yahoo doesn't do any money transactions except for paying for the league back when they charged in previous years...and I believe it's completely free now so even that doesn't apply anymore. You've been ripped off 3 times? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, I'm an idiot. If you really were ripped off 3 times, and it was for anything more then a trivial amount, then I blame you for continuing to send money to complete strangers that don't pay out. Use leaguesafe or similar, or find better leagues. 2) Can criminals really expect to keep getting away with stealing?Your beef is with your league mates, not yahoo. But to answer your question, yeah, probably. It's likely a trivial amount (in the eyes of justice). The authorities aren't going to care about some FF comish that runs off with the pot...they have more important things to do like catch real criminals. And any civil lawsuit is going to cost more then what you are going to recover unless it's a very high stakes league. 3) By ignoring complaints made by people in "private" leagues, is Yahoo an accessory to crime?No. But I bet you probably already knew that if you really did talk to your lawyer. If your lawyer told you otherwise, he's either taking you for a ride, is a lousy lawyer, or both. Yahoo also probably has more and better lawyers then you do, so I'd imagine that they have their legal grounds covered. Please do keep us abreast of your situation. I'm interested in seeing how the lawsuit turns out especially since what you are doing, with league "fees", is technically considered gambling which is illegal in most states. It's kind of like one drug dealer ripping off another and trying to sue them in court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Smurf Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I've got to agree with Jackass. You've got to at least do a bit of investigating before you dole out more than a token amount of cash on the internet. And unless your attorney can find some statute or contractual provision that permits you to recoup attorneys fees, I doubt any efforts, whether they be in California or even Virginia, would be cost effective. But best of luck with that. If he had a legit legal arguement, he would have made it already. He's just created a kettle, and is happy to sit and stir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbforbes Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 If he had a legit legal arguement, he would have made it already. He's just created a kettle, and is happy to sit and stir. True dat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I've never sued anyone and wouldn't for anything petty, but after being ripped off for the third time while playing fantasy football at Yahoo and seeing plenty of others get ripped off at Yahoo also, I'm trying to figure out my options. Just because Yahoo says it's a private league, are they right? -I don't think so, nor does my lawyer. 1) I have complained to Yahoo about being ripped off on multiple occasions and have been ignored each time. 2) Can criminals really expect to keep getting away with stealing? 3) By ignoring complaints made by people in "private" leagues, is Yahoo an accessory to crime? Yahoo terms of service call for lawsuits to be decided in California. Small problem since I'm in Virginia, but not a huge problem. You guys ready for the first lawsuit against Yahoo or what? It's about to be filed. You sent money to a stranger and now want to hold Yahoo responsible for your own stupidity? Man, that is is the funniest thing I ever heard on this site. Can't wait to see the expression on the judge's face before he or she dismisses this summarily. Frivolity at its best. Also, you can get tagged with Yahoo's legal expenses if it is deemed that your suit is frivolous. If I were you, I'd be checking on your lawyer's credentials if he/she is urging you to pursue this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 probably the only thing it will accomplish is shutting down Yahoo's fantasy sports. "protecting idiots from themselves" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 classic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Wow . . . just wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 You talking about joining a private league where everyone agrees to put into a pot, you send the money via PayPal or mail a check to them, then the commish doesn't pay out the money to the winner(s)? LOL, not only will they look like idiots, they'll also get everyone PISSED off when the federal government gets wind of all these winnings going untaxed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 While you're at it could you also sue them for listing Webb as QB/WR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 League Name: Caveat Emptor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttwarrior4 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 do you have the email of the person, why not just sue them???? also how much money are you talking about, we need to know to help.. sounds like he wants to sue more than what he is supposed to get and he probaly found a broke attorney that needs money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Internet providers have general immunity with regards to all sorts of activities by users. I'd wager Fantasy Football leagues fall under that umbrella as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 While you're at it could you also sue them for listing Webb as QB/WR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 (edited) Hahaha, please, please, please send your "lawyer" to discuss the issue with us. So you've entered into a non-sanctioned yahoo league, where you and a group are playing a game that Yahoo offers for fun, and playing it for money. And you expect that Yahoo is liable for this? You do realize that not even $$ office pools are technically legal, in the sense of being upholdable by-law, right? Really the only way sanctioned fantasy football and poker tournaments even claim to be legal is because they offer "prizes" and "entries" instead of "wagers", but anything less than officially sanctioned leagues are not technically legal. So where was the contract that you signed when you handed over your money? Did you send the commish a tax form to stay accountable with the government? Edited December 30, 2010 by delusions of granduer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I've never sued anyone and wouldn't for anything petty, but after being ripped off for the third time while playing fantasy football at Yahoo and seeing plenty of others get ripped off at Yahoo also, I'm trying to figure out my options. You were ripped off twice before yet you sent money again to someone you didn't know. You should be suing yourself for breach of intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hahaha, please, please, please send your "lawyer" to discuss the issue with us. So you've entered into a non-sanctioned yahoo league, where you and a group are playing a game that Yahoo offers for fun, and playing it for money. And you expect that Yahoo is liable for this? You do realize that not even $$ office pools are technically legal, in the sense of being upholdable by-law, right? Really the only way sanctioned fantasy football and poker tournaments even claim to be legal is because they offer "prizes" and "entries" instead of "wagers", but anything less than officially sanctioned leagues are not technically legal. So where was the contract that you signed when you handed over your money? Did you send the commish a tax form to stay accountable with the government? Officer.... OFFICER... I need help... That MFer rat dare jus stole my crack. Arrest dat MFer... wait, why ju arrestin me yu cracka! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 You were ripped off twice before yet you sent money again to someone you didn't know. You should be suing yourself for breach of intelligence. This . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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