Bronco Billy Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) QB Wonderlic Greg McElroy 43 Blaine Gabbert 42 Scott Tolzien 38 Colin Kaepernick 37 Christian Ponder 35 Ricky Stanzi 30 Andy Dalton 29 Ryan Mallett 26 Cam Newton 21 Jake Locker 20 Linky link Edited March 18, 2011 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) Very interesting article. The rule of 26-27-60: Top pick Sam Bradford scored a 36 on the Wonderlic, started 31 games at Oklahoma and completed 67 percent of his passes. Getty Images Perhaps we should not be stunned by JaMarcus Russell's utter flop as an NFL quarterback -- low-lighted this week by his arrest for possession of a controlled substance in Alabama. But could a simple formula have warned us of Russell's lack of NFL readiness? And Ryan Leaf's and David Carr's and other failed, high-pick quarterbacks? Call it the Rule of 26-27-60. Here is the gist of it: If an NFL prospect scores at least a 26 on the Wonderlic test, starts at least 27 games in his college career and completes at least 60 percent of his passes, there's a good chance he will succeed at the NFL level. link This year's bunch: QB Wonderlic/Starts/Completion Pct. Greg McElroy 43/27/66 Blaine Gabbert 42/26/61 Scott Tolzien 38/26/68 Kaepernick 37/46/58 Christian Ponder 35/34/62 Ricky Stanzi 30/35/60 Andy Dalton 29/49/62 Ryan Mallett 26/29/60 Cam Newton 21/16/65 Jake Locker 20/39/54 Edited March 18, 2011 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Ponder is my selection for the best QB in this draft and this helps my case. Probably the most NFL ready QB, I'm sure a west coast offense oriented team will snap him up before the 2nd round. At the very least, he should go ahead of Locker and Mallet IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Ponder is my selection for the best QB in this draft and this helps my case. He and Stanzi I think are the two best. Gabbert has a shot as well but I need a tad more convincing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Michael Vick 20/21/57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 What did JeWalrus score when he took his? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 What did JeWalrus score when he took his? 24/29/61 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) Michael Vick 20/21/57 Look how long it took him to be a QB and not a RB who threw the ball. His legs kept him in the league when his passing numbers would have washed him out. Edited March 17, 2011 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 He and Stanzi I think are the two best. Gabbert has a shot as well but I need a tad more convincing. Havn't done any research on Stanzi but I think Ponder and Special K are the 2 most ready NFL QB's in this draft. I'm moving Ponder ahead of Special K as of now. As far as Gabbert goes, I'm luke warm on him as well. We'll see what he does on his Pro Day today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) Havn't done any research on Stanzi but I think Ponder and Special K are the 2 most ready NFL QB's in this draft. I'm moving Ponder ahead of Special K as of now. As far as Gabbert goes, I'm luke warm on him as well. We'll see what he does on his Pro Day today. I loved Stanzi's prospects coming into this season. He seems to regressed in his decision making, especially under pressure and when the game is on the line. Don't know what got into his head, and I'm not sure it can be undone. Edited March 17, 2011 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Look how long it took him to be a QB and not a RB who threw the ball. His legs kept him in the league when his passing numbers would have washed him out. And he hasn't even been a QB for a full season yet. Memo to JaMarcus: don't just drink that drank, sell it across state lines. Lots of it. Couple years in Leavenworth, tell everyone you're really, really sorry and you rededicated your life to the game. It's not too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Ouch. 20 for Jake. Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Very interesting article. The rule of 26-27-60: Top pick Sam Bradford scored a 36 on the Wonderlic, started 31 games at Oklahoma and completed 67 percent of his passes. Getty Images Perhaps we should not be stunned by JaMarcus Russell's utter flop as an NFL quarterback -- low-lighted this week by his arrest for possession of a controlled substance in Alabama. But could a simple formula have warned us of Russell's lack of NFL readiness? And Ryan Leaf's and David Carr's and other failed, high-pick quarterbacks? Call it the Rule of 26-27-60. Here is the gist of it: If an NFL prospect scores at least a 26 on the Wonderlic test, starts at least 27 games in his college career and completes at least 60 percent of his passes, there's a good chance he will succeed at the NFL level. link This year's bunch: QB Wonderlic/Starts/Completion Pct. Greg McElroy 43/27/66 Blaine Gabbert 42/26/61 Christian Ponder 35/34/62 Ricky Stanzi 30/35/60 Andy Dalton 29/49/62 Ryan Mallett 26/29/60 Cam Newton 21/16/65 Jake Locker 20/39/54 I'm skeptical of those numbers. Ponder started 34 games in college? Wasn't he hurt a lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I'm skeptical of those numbers. Ponder started 34 games in college? Wasn't he hurt a lot? According to the PFW Draft Guide Ponder actually started 35 games: 1 as a freshman, 13 as a sophomore, 9 as a junior, 12 as a senior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 According to the PFW Draft Guide Ponder actually started 35 games: 1 as a freshman, 13 as a sophomore, 9 as a junior, 12 as a senior Thanks for verifying Is there anywhere to get all the wonderlick scores for all offensive skill players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Thanks for verifying Is there anywhere to get all the wonderlick scores for all offensive skill players? The NFL no longer publishes them, but certain scores are obtained from the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I'm skeptical of those numbers. Ponder started 34 games in college? Wasn't he hurt a lot? Started all games as a Sophomore Started first 9 games as a Junior before suffering a season ending shoulder surgery while making a tackle. Started every game but 1 as a Senior. Missed late season game vs. Clemson for unknown reasons. At the time of his injury in his Junior season, Ponder was ranked at the top in almost every conceivable category for QB's and entered 2010 as a Heisman Candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 You can put down a 37 for Special K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 You can put down a 37 for Special K Is Special K the Nevada QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Is Special K the Nevada QB? Kaepernick yes. It's easier for me to spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 You can put down a 37 for Special K Link please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 You can put down a 37 for Special K I think his completion % was less than 60 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Link please http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...1889&spln=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Link please [beavis]You Questioning Me?[/beavis] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 [beavis]You Questioning Me?[/beavis] In a New York second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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