DanTheMan_5 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I've run my 12 man PPR league for several years now, and I am debating adjusting my scoring rules to reflect the new NFL as we know it. Being as we have so few RB's and more and more WR's scoring points, I've found myself almost bored with FF. I need to shake it up. Here are some ideas I've considered implementing next year. What are ya'll doing different, if anything, with the way the NFL has changed to mare of a passing league? I'm considering the following: PPR only for RB's Instead of 2WR/2RB/TE/RB-WR-TE adding a mandatory 3rd WR and keeping flex also. Give RB's a bonus at 50 and 100 yards instead of only at 100 yards I guess what I am getting at is trying to increase RB scoring some to make drafting and lineup choices more important. RB's will always have more draft value just because there are so few good ones, and they get hurt so often, but aside from the very top tier, there scoring totals pale in comparison to top WR's. Am I making too much of this or do you guys agree? If this has been hashed out previously on a thread I missed it. Maybe I am just growing up....I dunno.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awahl63 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Our league has the additional WR spot. We dig it. This year the FA pool is absolutely barren though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Our league has the additional WR spot. We dig it. This year the FA pool is absolutely barren though. How deep are you rosters? We carry 18 total, and I've considered reducing it to 16 for that very reason. We have no IR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahavrilla Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I've thought about this some as well, but i wanted to look at more than a couple weeks of stats first. It often seems like there's a lot more passing in the nfl the first week or so than there is by the end of the season. However, what i was thinking is that part of the reason ppr is a good rule is to put WR on the same level as RB's. It also makes more RB's and WR's viable. If the NFL really does keep the ratio of rushing yards and td's to receiving yards and td's it has for the last couple weeks through the end of the season then maybe it's time for a scoring change. Nobody wants the RB position to turn into the old TE position...can you imagine? "I play in a ppr standard scoring 1 RB mandatory league" Obviously that's a huge exaggeration, but what if you just remove your ppr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 I've considered removing the PPR also, but I think the more scoring the better. I'm leaning more towards increasing RB's points somehow without negating the excitement of allowing a WR to post huge numbers. 2 points per 10 ruYd? 3 if you play for the Jags? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo33 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Lol. 3 if you play for the jags. MJD would probably still be inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 we dumped PPR a few years ago and now start 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, plus a Flex (WR/RB/TE). It is SO MUCH BETTER this way. Be bold enough to dump PPR altogether. It skews the game and in retrospect it was utterly ridiculous. We don't give backs a point per carry do we? we don't give QBs a point for passing attempts do we? PPR was concocted to balance out the dominance of RBs for leagues that couldn't tolerate the dearth of starting RBs available. It never made any sense then and now, in a pass dominated league where most teams use RBBC, PPR is a train wreck. Just let it go. Yards and TDs are all that should matter. JMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahavrilla Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 i think i may have to add a 3rd WR starting slot to my league. How big are other league's benches? In my league we have 9 starters and 6 bench, if i had 10 starters i think that might have to change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 We have a total of 6 starters at RB/WR/TE 0-3 RBs 0-5 WRs 1-3 TEs And it's graduated PPR..oh and it's a 16 Team IDP league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 We changed our flex to a WR position some years back when RB still dominated, and teams that had 3 good ones were ruling the league. We've never had PPR, and probably won't add it. Start 9 (QB/2RB/3WR/TE/K/D) and 9 bench spots (no per player limits). Years ago when TE were worthless we had 1 point per 25, and changed it to 1/10 for TE (now 1/10 rush/rec all positions). So if you wanted to bump up RB some you could do something along those lines. Could even keep PPR and do more for RB than other positions (some leagues do that now, maybe 1.5 for TE and 1 for others). The TE change was mostly because TE were getting 0-1 too often and were a wasted roster spot. RB are certainly doing less, and there are fewer guys carrying the load, so you have more players that barely contribute. I doubt we'll change anything soon, our league is resistant to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 we dumped PPR a few years ago and now start 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, plus a Flex (WR/RB/TE). It is SO MUCH BETTER this way. Be bold enough to dump PPR altogether. It skews the game and in retrospect it was utterly ridiculous. We don't give backs a point per carry do we? we don't give QBs a point for passing attempts do we? PPR was concocted to balance out the dominance of RBs for leagues that couldn't tolerate the dearth of starting RBs available. It never made any sense then and now, in a pass dominated league where most teams use RBBC, PPR is a train wreck. Just let it go. Yards and TDs are all that should matter. JMO I don't think PPR or no PPR makes it any more or less fun really. Everybody plays by the same rules and knows those rules going into the draft. Personally, I kind of prefer the added element of PPR. To each his own I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 maybe ppr should count only if the catch results in a first down? and btw, many leagues I'm in do a terrible job at team defense scoring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staniels12 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I think the best part of this is that you're willing to change things up to promote equal scoring amongst positions. We have tweaked positional scoring for years to bump up TE's and DL's and starting last year even the RB's, as we felt the same way you do about their drop-off recently. Even little changes to custom scoring systems can have the needed effect to round things out and keep positions from becoming less relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 In my favorite league we get 0.7 PPR and 0.3 PPC (points per carry). I would like to see us add a WR3 starter too, but I doubt that it will ever happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Equal scoring amongst positions does not equate to equal value across positions. Look at what the changes you are proposing would do to the scoring differences within the positions. Right now, if you believe WRs are too valuable because of PPR (a rule that actually increased the value of top RBs and made more RBs playable - think Larry Centers from the Cardinals many years ago - more than it helped top WRs, adding an additional required WR will only serve to INCREASE the value of WRs, not level it out. By requiring more starters at a position, you lower the level of contribution that can be expected by the worst required starter at that position, thus increasing the value of the top contributors at the position. If your concern is the lack of "stud" RBs and you want to better balance RB and WR value, then look at lineups that are more like 1 required RB, 2-3 required WRs, 1 required TE and then 1-2 RB/WR/TE flex spots. If you have PPR, this sort of lineup would balance out the flex position a bit more making it a better balance of RB and WRs that should fill the spot (and graduated PPR would put more TEs in contention as valuable flex players). By doing this, owners would have greater flexibility in being able to construct competitive teams and greater flexibility in managing byes/injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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