CaptainHook Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 First half in Tokyo Schaub 9/10 87 yards 2 TD Vick 4/7 51 yards 1 INT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 shame too, cause Schaub is the better QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Schaub is the better QB.913541[/snapback] Yeah....he really showed us that last year, when he started the next to last game of the season for the FalCANS when Vick was out. Even though in his start, he went up against one of last years NFL Powerhouse D's (the Ain'ts ) he still managed to put up these astounding numbers; 17 of 41 for 188 yards and 2 interceptions Yep! He needs to be starting over Vick alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Yeah....he really showed us that last year, when he started the next to last game of the season for the FalCANS when Vick was out. Even though in his start, he went up against one of last years NFL Powerhouse D's (the Ain'ts ) he still managed to put up these astounding numbers; 17 of 41 for 188 yards and 2 interceptions Yep! He needs to be starting over Vick alright. 913568[/snapback] You're funny, but my point is Vick is not a QB for the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 You're funny, but my point is Vick is not a QB for the NFL.913758[/snapback] Is Vick a conventional NFL QB? NO Does Vick help his team to win games and make the play-offs in the NFL? YES Is he a high profile social Megan Fox bag pariah ala Jeff George or Ryan Leaf? NO Does he put fans in the seats for both Home & Away games? YES Does he help in the sales of authentic NFL paraphernalia? YES In short, he is a perfect QB for the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Oh!....and one last thing in Vick's favor... Is he a genorous giving person or a selfish POS? (I submit his willingness to share his STD with the ladies, is evidence of his giving nature ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erAddict-08 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 You're funny, but my point is Vick is not a QB for the NFL. 913758[/snapback] What do you mean that Vick is not a QB for the NFL? I admit that he has been WAY overrated the past few years as a fantasy QB, but in 2002 & 2004 when Vick was healthy, the Falcons were a combined 20-11-1 with a couple of playoff victories and an NFC Championship appearance. Compare that to 5-11 in 2003 when Vick was down. While Vick has been a bit of a disappointment fantasy wise, he has done what a QB should do first and foremost--help his team win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Yeah....he really showed us that last year, when he started the next to last game of the season for the FalCANS when Vick was out. Even though in his start, he went up against one of last years NFL Powerhouse D's (the Ain'ts ) he still managed to put up these astounding numbers; 17 of 41 for 188 yards and 2 interceptions 913568[/snapback] Vick vs the powerhouse Cardinals - 10/20 115 yds, 1 int Vick vs the powerhouse Panthers - 10-18 148 Vick vs the powerhouse Chiefs D - 7-21 119 2 int Just, y'know, for balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Oh, anyway, couldn't we just revive one of the other "Vick needs work/ Vick created football in 6 days" he said/she said threads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Is Vick a conventional NFL QB? NO Does Vick help his team to win games and make the play-offs in the NFL? YES Is he a high profile social Megan Fox bag pariah ala Jeff George or Ryan Leaf? NO Does he put fans in the seats for both Home & Away games? YES Does he help in the sales of authentic NFL paraphernalia? YES In short, he is a perfect QB for the NFL 913794[/snapback] Yes, I suppose, but I don't see him succeeding much longer. Just think he was a better fit for college ball than the NFL, but your point about fans spending money for #7 is accurate to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Oh!....and one last thing in Vick's favor... Is he a genorous giving person or a selfish POS? (I submit his willingness to share his STD with the ladies, is evidence of his giving nature ) 913797[/snapback] Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Vick vs the powerhouse Cardinals - 10/20 115 yds, 1 int Vick vs the powerhouse Panthers - 10-18 148 Vick vs the powerhouse Chiefs D - 7-21 119 2 int Just, y'know, for balance. 913808[/snapback] Right. Speaking of balance, Vick could use some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted August 6, 2005 Author Share Posted August 6, 2005 Does Vick have herpes? YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 This thread just wasted 1 minute of my life. Vick is not great yet, but he's at least a top 15 qb as evidence by his won loss record. Plus he has Peerless Price as his #1 WR the past few years? Warrick Dunn isn't exactly Priest Holmes and his rush offense isn't exactly the Pitt Rush offense either. So who's a better NFL QB today, Big Ben or Vick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 This thread just wasted 1 minute of my life. 913826[/snapback] Wait, you're on a FANTASY FOOTBALL MESSAGE BOARD and bemoaning "wasted minutes"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Warrick Dunn isn't exactly Priest Holmes and his rush offense isn't exactly the Pitt Rush offense either. 913826[/snapback] Dunn/Duckett - 369 carries, 1615 yds, 17 tds Bettis/Staley - 442 carries, 1771 yds, 14 tds. Well, I guess it's not exactly the Pitt rushing offense - it has more tds and a better avg per carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime9287 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Schaub did awesome last preseason too. The fact of the matter is that even though Vick is overrated, he wins. The Falcons are a much better team with Vick in the lineup, as opposed to what they would be if Schaub was in there. If you judge how a backup does in preseason, playing against backup D's, you don't know much about football. I'm sure you could look up teams where in many cases the backup out pereforms the starter in preseason, but yet we aren't talking about them being better than their starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Schaub did awesome last preseason too. The fact of the matter is that even though Vick is overrated, he wins. The Falcons are a much better team with Vick in the lineup, as opposed to what they would be if Schaub was in there. If you judge how a backup does in preseason, playing against backup D's, you don't know much about football. I'm sure you could look up teams where in many cases the backup out pereforms the starter in preseason, but yet we aren't talking about them being better than their starter. 913837[/snapback] I don't think anybody is suggesting his Preseason play makes him better or worse. Now stop waisting ChiefJay's minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Vick vs the powerhouse Cardinals - 10/20 115 yds, 1 int 913808[/snapback] BTW, didn't he also contribute another 68 yards via the gound? Oh! And what was the outcome of that game?Vick vs the powerhouse Panthers - 10-18 148 913808[/snapback] I can't remember Chavez, please tell me, what was outcome of this game? Oh! And how did Vick do in their re-match? My of my....Vick went 11 of 28 for 154 yards and 2 TD's along with another 68 yards and TD on the ground. (two picks though) Vick vs the powerhouse Chiefs D - 7-21 119 2 int 913808[/snapback] Well I guess one out of three ain't bad, right Chavez? Thought I'd put that in, y'know, for balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chavez Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Point wasn't to slam Vick really; EVERY QB has bad games. Schaub is 0-fer-1 in starts; looking at the #s, he was solid in relief vs the Seahawks. Heck, I figure as an Atlanta fan, you might give one of your rookie QBs a bit of a mulligan in his first start ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 BTW, didn't he also contribute another 68 yards via the gound? Oh! And what was the outcome of that game?I can't remember Chavez, please tell me, what was outcome of this game? 913862[/snapback] iI don't know that I'd necessarily be beating my chest about my QBs performance in a 6-3 win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 iI don't know that I'd necessarily be beating my chest about my QBs performance in a 6-3 win.913876[/snapback] A win is a win is a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Heck, I figure as an Atlanta fan, you might give one of your rookie QBs a bit of a mulligan in his first start ever. 913867[/snapback] Nope! After the debacle of our 2003 season with Doug Johnson & Kurt Kittner .... .....no gosh darn MULLIGANS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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