timberho27 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Just heard it on 1050 espn radio in NYC, Vinny signed and will be announced soon. I'll look for a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 With who? the Jets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 With who? the Jets? 1024390[/snapback] with indy manning is out for the year :doah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberho27 Posted September 27, 2005 Author Share Posted September 27, 2005 haha, yes the Jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberho27 Posted September 27, 2005 Author Share Posted September 27, 2005 heres a link vinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 What is the over/under on INT's with him at the helm? This going to make some already stout defenses in that division even better fantasy wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberho27 Posted September 27, 2005 Author Share Posted September 27, 2005 To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a difference with the way pennington has been playing so far this season. He has obviously been hurt and having problems, his throws had so much loft on them, and were mostly very very weak and never reached the target. Another interesting fact I just heard on the radio is no nfl qb has come back after having 2 rotator cuff surgeories. Believe it or not, testerverde is an upgrade in regards to arm strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Its a sad day when Testaverde gives hope to CuMar owners..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 ...Believe it or not, testerverde is an upgrade in regards to arm strength. 1024471[/snapback] Vinny actually has a gun - even at age 65 or whatever he is. It's his decision-making and lack of mobility that you worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberho27 Posted September 27, 2005 Author Share Posted September 27, 2005 He's 41 now. I personally don't think he's going to be as bad as everyone thinks he will be. The jets season isn't going anywhere, but I also think it was done before pennington went down. I'm not saying testeverde is worth picking up for fantasy football, but I do think coles #s will actually start improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soopanuts Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Are you kidding me? He's not going to be as bad as everything thinks he is going to be? Rovers, please chime in here. This is not good, any way you slice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I also agree that Pennington had not looked good all year. his arm was obviously week and erratic. the fact that Edwards was EVEN playing him astounds me. I don't think it will hurt having Vinny the way Pennington was playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 It's clear they pushed Pennington back too soon, and no one will be held accountable and all blame will be put on Pennington. Good thing for him they made him a gazillionaire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberho27 Posted September 27, 2005 Author Share Posted September 27, 2005 Are you kidding me? He's not going to be as bad as everything thinks he is going to be? Rovers, please chime in here. This is not good, any way you slice it. 1024532[/snapback] Soop, i'm not saying vinny is going to save the day or anything, i'm just pointing out that the jets were in big trouble at the qb position before this sunday. Chad P obviously wasn't right this season. I've heard he's having trouble with the offensive system, but I also can say his arm has just looked very weak. I know he's never had that long throw ability, but within 20 yards he was a great nfl qb, and he wasn't hitting those throws this year consistantly. While vinny T is old, and was horrible last time he was on the jets, he did fairly well last year for dallas with over 3500 yards starting in 15 games, granted he had 20 ints and only 17 tds, but it's not nearly as bad as things could be with bollinger at the healm. And with the way chad has been throwing the ball, I don't think the drop off will be all that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soopanuts Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Soop, i'm not saying vinny is going to save the day or anything, i'm just pointing out that the jets were in big trouble at the qb position before this sunday. Chad P obviously wasn't right this season. I've heard he's having trouble with the offensive system, but I also can say his arm has just looked very weak. I know he's never had that long throw ability, but within 20 yards he was a great nfl qb, and he wasn't hitting those throws this year consistantly. While vinny T is old, and was horrible last time he was on the jets, he did fairly well last year for dallas with over 3500 yards starting in 15 games, granted he had 20 ints and only 17 tds, but it's not nearly as bad as things could be with bollinger at the healm. And with the way chad has been throwing the ball, I don't think the drop off will be all that bad. 1024583[/snapback] timberho27, I have to disagree. Granted Chad hasn't been throwing the ball well, but defenses actually respected his ability and with a little more time, I'm pretty sure he would have gotten the offense under control. The dude is pretty darn smart. With BB or Vinny at the helm, there will be no respect for the pass. Get ready for 8 in the box and CuMar running into walls like this To me, this recipe for disaster. I can't wait to see DMD's prediction for the Jets/Ravens game this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Bats Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 timberho27, I have to disagree. Granted Chad hasn't been throwing the ball well, but defenses actually respected his ability and with a little more time, I'm pretty sure he would have gotten the offense under control. The dude is pretty darn smart. With BB or Vinny at the helm, there will be no respect for the pass. Get ready for 8 in the box and CuMar running into walls like this To me, this recipe for disaster. I can't wait to see DMD's prediction for the Jets/Ravens game this weekend. 1024608[/snapback] Vinny won't play this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 He's probably the best of what was available on the free agent market. Older than hell, but he still has an arm. I'm surprised that the Bears chose Blake over him after Grossman went down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberho27 Posted September 27, 2005 Author Share Posted September 27, 2005 Yes, the news is reporting bollinger will be starting this weekend. And I agree that chad is a smart player, his arm warranted no respect this year. While i'm not a jets fan, living in nj like you i see every single jets game, and his arm was just not right. I'm not questioning his ability to control the offense, i'm questioning his velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 (edited) Dang it, just posted about this. Did a search too. Edit: searched TestAverde Edited September 27, 2005 by Dark Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Testaverde will get killed behind this aging Jets line. One of my biggest concerns this year was that the O lineman have to hold their blocks longer in the new offense. OLT Fabini has been putrid, straight ahead bull rushes knock him on his keester. Now, he has a knee sprain on top of that. The Jets need a QB that is mobile, something that Bollinger is, something Testaverde is not. As a Jets fan, I can only hope that Bollinger plays well enough next week to keep VT on the bench. It had become apparent to me that Pennington just was not healthy enough to keep the defense honest, and is a big part of why Martin has had such a slow start. I actually felt that the Jets were better off with Fiedler..... for about 6 plays. He had the mobility to get out of the pocket.... Testaverde is a statue. He'll get kilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soopanuts Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Rovers, thank you for the analysis. I couldn't agree more. Vinny back there would be worse than Bollinger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soopanuts Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Vinny won't play this week. 1024620[/snapback] Yes, I know, but DMDs prediction will still be enjoyable to read for a Ravens owner because Brooks will be in at the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionhater Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 what ever happend to Quincy Carter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 He's probably the best of what was available on the free agent market. Older than hell, but he still has an arm. I'm surprised that the Bears chose Blake over him after Grossman went down. 1024624[/snapback] I don't know if they approached him, but maybe he didn't want to choose Chicago? Also, I'll go out on a limb here and predict Bollinger sees some early success (yes, even vs Balt) until the league gets enough footage on him to 'figure him out' which seems to be a trend with decently mobile but mediocre QBs in this league - Wright, Carter & Plummer in his early going come to mind. In other words: Bollinger will pull off an upset pr two, be the hero of NY until mid-October and then get crucified by Halloween. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 ...Also, I'll go out on a limb here and predict Bollinger sees some early success (yes, even vs Balt) until the league gets enough footage on him to 'figure him out' which seems to be a trend with decently mobile but mediocre QBs in this league - Wright, Carter & Plummer in his early going come to mind. In other words: Bollinger will pull off an upset pr two, be the hero of NY until mid-October and then get crucified by Halloween. 1024863[/snapback] I think there may be some validity to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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