There was a serious reason that I posted that the Pope might get assassinated

[skins]

God will sort it out. Listen and learn.

 

 

That song is absolute truth.

[wiegie]

God will sort it out. Listen and learn.

 

I found that every bit as hilarious as my wife didn't.

 

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(OK, now even my wife is laughing despite the fact that she doesn't want to be laughing.)

[spain]

The O G really handles his business...

[Chavez]

and you bring up this non-sequitur because... ?

 

Mainly to point out that even IF JP2 came out pro-evolution, that doesn't mean that mainstream Catholics LISTENED to him, just like they don't listen to him on a bunch of other issues.

 

And secondarily because that was two beers and 3 gin and tonics into the evening.

[SuperBalla]

So they have declared the West will be wiped off the Earth, along with the Pope. Sweet...so they are for peace. :wipesforhead:

 

I saw on CNN they video'd one of several sermon's, as taught by Muhammad, for the world to watch. Ask Nicholas Berg's family if they have a copy if you missed it. It shows how peaceful and reasonable they are? Nicholas was the main character...it was really dramatic as he screams while he gargles his own blood.

 

If you don't see the need to FOK those rag heads up, then yer dumb. Maybe another September 11th will remind us of the war we are in. Those sick FOK's accuse us of being unreasonable? We use sanctions they use a machette. Who is more reasonable?

Edited September 20, 2006 by SuperBalla

[wiegie]

Mainly to point out that even IF JP2 came out pro-evolution, that doesn't mean that mainstream Catholics LISTENED to him, just like they don't listen to him on a bunch of other issues.

 

And secondarily because that was two beers and 3 gin and tonics into the evening.

 

well, I can go along with the drinking (as I am 4/5's into an excellent bottle of Sicilian wine), but I will point out that mainstream Catholics believe in evolution (I went to Catholic schools for 12 years and it wasn't until I was about 20 years old that I actually met somebody who believed in the literal creation account in Genesis (and she was a Baptist that I met while working in a restaurant))

[Squeegiebo]

So they have declared the West will be wiped off the Earth, along with the Pope. Sweet...so they are for peace. :wipesforhead:

 

I saw on CNN they video'd one of several sermon's, as taught by Muhammad, for the world to watch. Ask Nicholas Berg's family if they have a copy if you missed it. It shows how peaceful and reasonable they are? Nicholas was the main character...it was really dramatic as he screams while he gargles his own blood.

 

If you don't see the need to FOK those rag heads up, then yer dumb. Maybe another September 11th will remind us of the war we are in. Those sick FOK's accuse us of being unreasonable? We use sanctions they use a machette. Who is more reasonable?

 

 

Who exactly are the "they" and "those" you're talking about here?

[Chavez]

I will point out that mainstream Catholics believe in evolution (I went to Catholic schools for 12 years and it wasn't until I was about 20 years old that I actually met somebody who believed in the literal creation account in Genesis (and she was a Baptist that I met while working in a restaurant))

 

I probably was jumbling the Catholics in with the Evangelicals on that one.

 

Of course it isn't like the Catholic church doesn't have plenty of its OWN crazy to sell.

[SuperBalla]

Who exactly are the "they" and "those" you're talking about here?

 

 

"They" are those that are the Muslim's that are "outraged" by the Pope's remarks. "They" overlook the actions of their "holy warriors" but burn and destroy based upon the Pontiff's words. It is silly, in my opinion, that he even appologized. Fok them. When are they going to appologize for their words and actions that are "outrageous"? Why are we held to standards set by them?

[skins]

"They" are those that are the Muslim's that are "outraged" by the Pope's remarks. "They" overlook the actions of their "holy warriors" but burn and destroy based upon the Pontiff's words. It is silly, in my opinion, that he even appologized. Fok them. When are they going to appologize for their words and actions that are "outrageous"? Why are we held to standards set by them?

 

 

So you want to declare jihad on the Muslims. Cool.

 

Yer a holy warrior who can ride yer triceratops into battle at the right hand of our Anointed Leader George W. Bush on his T Rex while Patriarch Pat Robertson flogs the faithful into the bloody fray.

 

( you think we abide by standards set by them. )

Edited September 20, 2006 by skins

[skins]

"They" are those that are the Muslim's that are "outraged" by the Pope's remarks. "They" overlook the actions of their "holy warriors" but burn and destroy based upon the Pontiff's words. It is silly, in my opinion, that he even appologized. Fok them. When are they going to appologize for their words and actions that are "outrageous"? Why are we held to standards set by them?

 

 

You must love this--we just let Pakistan release 2500 Taliban/Al Qaeda including the murderers of Daniel Pearl.

[SuperBalla]

( you think we abide by standards set by them. )

 

 

 

What side seems to be held accountable for their actions and who always appologizes? If we say the Muslim community acts babaric in its crusade to rid their country of infidels by aimlessly detonating morans in vehicles, in which, kills innocent people more than it does infidels, why do we have to appologize? Have they ever done anything wrong, in yer opinion or is Bush the "Big Evil" in yer eyes too?

 

 

Me and Bushy will ride our Dinosaurs and fight you and Osama in the desert...what are you going to be riding?

Edited September 20, 2006 by SuperBalla

[Squeegiebo]

What side seems to be held accountable for their actions and who always appologizes? If we say the Muslim community acts babaric in its crusade to rid their country of infidels by aimlessly detonating morans in vehicles, in which, kills innocent people more than it does infidels, why do we have to appologize? Have they ever done anything wrong, in yer opinion or is Bush the "Big Evil" in yer eyes too?

Me and Bushy will ride our Dinosaurs and fight you and Osama in the desert...what are you going to be riding?

 

 

So you mean the entire "Muslim community" when you say "they" and "those rag heads."

[bushwacked]

Me and Bushy will ride our Dinosaurs and fight you and Osama in the desert

 

 

Wow, Bush is going to kill Osama?

[SuperBalla]

So you mean the entire "Muslim community" when you say "they" and "those rag heads."

 

 

 

"They" will kill all of us. Why should we try to distinguish a few of them when a few of them try to kill all of us? September 11th was a perfect act of this. Has any of the Muslim community, besides a few (I can picture some woman who blasted the "Fantical-Muslims" on the news one time, there was a link here infact), ever come out publicly and denounced the actions of the "Holy Warriors" or appologize? Never. So yes...they lump all of us I lump all of them.

Edited September 20, 2006 by SuperBalla

[bushwacked]

"They" will kill all of us. Why should we try to distinguish a few of them when a few of them try to kill all of us?

 

 

 

Sounds like an Al Qaeda speech.

[Squeegiebo]

"They" will kill all of us. Why should we try to distinguish a few of them when a few of them try to kill all of us? September 11th was a perfect act of this. Has any of the Muslim community, besides a few (I can picture some woman who blasted the "Fantical-Muslims" on the news on time, there was a link here infact), ever come out publicly and denounced the actions of the "Holy Warriors" or appologize? Never. So yes...they lump all of us I lump all of them.

 

Good heavens, you are scary. If some members of an Asian gang beat you up and steal your money, and the rest of the 2 billion or so Asians don't denounce their actions or appologize, you want "us" to kill all Asians in the world too?

 

Please do not include me in your "us," because I certainly don't think that every Muslim I see walking down the street wants to cut my head off, and I have no desire to kill every member of the "Muslim community" because of what some sick *** Muslims are doing.

[SuperBalla]

Good heavens, you are scary. If some members of an Asian gang beat you up and steal your money, and the rest of the 2 billion or so Asians don't denounce their actions or appologize, you want "us" to kill all Asians in the world too?

 

Please do not include me in your "us," because I certainly don't think that every Muslim I see walking down the street wants to cut my head off, and I have no desire to kill every member of the "Muslim community" because of what some sick *** Muslims are doing.

 

 

I am scary. I think scary would be closer too one of their weetowd's driving a mini-van into my child's day care and blowing it up. I wouldn't do something like that...they seem to have no problem with it, if they did...they'd appologize.

Edited September 20, 2006 by SuperBalla

[SuperBalla]

Sounds like an Al Qaeda speech.

 

 

Good point. However, I am fed up with their chit. We didn't instigate this war...they, or a few of them did. Wouldn't it have been easier for them to cooperate with us after September 11th and rid themselves of the terrorists instead of harboring them?

[Ursa Majoris]

Good point. However, I am fed up with their chit. We didn't instigate this war...they, or a few of them did. Wouldn't it have been easier for them to cooperate with us after September 11th and rid themselves of the terrorists instead of harboring them?

 

Yes it would. And, to at least some extent, it did. And then came Iraq.....

[wiegie]

Papal assassin warns Pope Benedict his 'life is in danger' if he visits Turkey

20.09.06

 

Pope Benedict faces a growing chorus of demands to make an unequivocal apology for remarks seen as portraying Islam as a violent faith, despite attempts by Western leaders and churchmen to defuse the crisis.

 

The calls came as it emerged papal hitman Mehmet Ali Agca, who is serving a life sentence for the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II in May 1981, has written to Pope Benedict XVI from jail, warning him not to go to Turkey as planned in November in the light of his remarks.

 

Agca, a Turk gave his ominous warning in a letter to an Italian daily newspaper.

 

For many Muslims, the Pope's attempt to explain himself on Sunday did not go far enough and observers were waiting to see if he would speak about it again at his general audience at the Vatican.

 

The Pope enraged Muslims in a speech a week ago in Germany quoting 14th century Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaeologus, who said everything the Prophet Mohammad brought was evil "such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached".

 

The leader of the world's 1.1 billion Roman Catholics said on Sunday he was 'deeply sorry' for the reaction caused - but stopped short of apologising for his words or retracting them.

 

In a telegram to the order of an Italian nun killed in Somalia who may be the crisis' first victim, the Pope hoped her sacrifice would help build "real fraternity among people with reciprocal respect of everyone's religious convictions".

 

But the deluge of criticism and threats continued. Italian media said an al Qaeda group in Egypt called for the German-born Pope, who is 79, to be punished by strict Islamic sharia law for insulting their religion. An al Qaeda umbrella group in Iraq has also vowed war on "worshippers of the cross".

 

Workers at Turkey's Directorate General for Religious Affairs, or Diyanet, petitioned for the arrest of the Pontiff when he makes a scheduled visit to Turkey in November.

 

They held banners saying "Either apologise or don't come". The Pope's comments annoyed the Turkish government but there are no plans yet to cancel the trip.

 

In Iraq, where an effigy of the Pope was burnt on Monday, parliament speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani called his apology "inadequate and not commensurate with the moral damage caused to Muslims' feelings".

 

The Grand Mufti of the Palestinian Territories, Sheikh Mohammad Hussein, said the Pope must make "a personal and clear apology to 1.5 billion Muslims in this world for the insult caused by his lecture..."

 

In his two page letter to leading Italian Rome based daily La Repubblica, Agca, who was a member of the Turkish terrorist cell the White Wolves, wrote: "Pope Ratzinger listen to someone who knows these things very well.

 

"Your life is in danger. You absolutely must not come to Turkey. Pope Benedict you must know that between 1980 and 2000 I was in contact with various Western intelligence services and with the Vatican.

 

"In those twenty tears I learnt many things and I came into possession of many classified secrets."

 

The letter closed with Agca imploring Pope Benedict to resign for his own safety he wrote: "For your own welfare you must make a grand gesture of honour and resign.

 

"Then you must return to your native land (Germany) and in your place an Italian cardinal can be elected Pope, possibly (cardinal Dionigi) Tettamanzi or (cardinal Tarcisio) Bertone.

 

"Then the Vatican should become a centre of peace and fraternity. The world has a need of this it does not need hatred and vendetta."

 

Agca was jailed for his attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II in St Peter's Square in May 1981 and in 2000 he was allowed to return to Turkey to serve the rest of his sentence.

 

Earlier this year he was briefly freed from his life sentence after a judge released him but after a huge outcry he was jailed again within days and is now at Istanbul's Kartal Maltepe jail and not due for release until 2012.

 

In Italy, politicians and churchmen defended the Pope and said his words were taken out of context and his explanation was quite clear.

 

Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano published it in Arabic on its front page to try to clarify his meaning.

 

But while some Muslim clerics say the alleged insults are the latest skirmish in a new Western 'crusade' against Islam, some Catholic churchmen say the Pontiff's words have been purposefully twisted by militant Muslims.

 

"We pray for the Pope whose words have been maliciously interpreted," Cardinal Crescenzio Sepe said in Naples at the annual 'miracle' of fourth century Saint Gennaro, whose blood turns from powder to liquid in what is seen as a good omen.

 

The head of Australia's 5.1 million-strong Catholic church went as far as to say that violent reaction "justified one of Pope Benedict's main fears" about Islam.

 

Cardinal George Pell said this showed "the link for many Islamists between religion and violence, their refusal to respond to criticism with rational arguments, but only with demonstrations, threats and actual violence". Local Muslims called Pell's comments 'unhelpful'.

 

[skins]

What side seems to be held accountable for their actions and who always appologizes? If we say the Muslim community acts babaric in its crusade to rid their country of infidels by aimlessly detonating morans in vehicles, in which, kills innocent people more than it does infidels, why do we have to appologize? Have they ever done anything wrong, in yer opinion or is Bush the "Big Evil" in yer eyes too?

Me and Bushy will ride our Dinosaurs and fight you and Osama in the desert...what are you going to be riding?

 

 

The US abides by the standards of enlightened and civilized nations. That is why we apologize when we do something not in accordance with those standards. For you to want us to stoop to the level of the terrorists means you have no idea why we abide by our own standards of decency. That is scary.

 

You sound like our own little watered down Taliban right here at home.

 

And for you to joke about Bush fighting Osama is sickening--he has no interest in capturing Osama and practically left Afghanistan, which is sliding into ruin, and said last week Osama is not a "top priority."

[spain]

Superballa: You must realize in the world of the warped liberal mind, the USA is ALWAYS wrong. We must always apologize because our very existence is an afront to all those poor people we oppress. And be sure that we are constantly oppressing poor innocent people somewhere. You will never find anything but condemnation of the USA by the far left. This country is ananthema to all that leftist believe and stand for. We are always wrong. We are always to blame. We are evil. That is the liberal viewpoint and it hasnt changed in the last 50 years and probably never will. So, when muzzi's blow up buildings; the evil USA is to blame because we oppressed them. When Saddam Huessin violates the terms of his surrender; the USA is to blame for taking that murderous dictator down. When Pakistan helps harbor Osama Bin Laden in remote regions of their country; the evil USA is to blame for not locating him. We are always the culprit and should always be made to apologize. That is how completely f*cked up the American left is today.

[spain]

The US abides by the standards of enlightened and civilized nations. That is why we apologize when we do something not in accordance with those standards. For you to want us to stoop to the level of the terrorists means you have no idea why we abide by our own standards of decency. That is scary.

 

You sound like our own little watered down Taliban right here at home.

 

And for you to joke about Bush fighting Osama is sickening--he has no interest in capturing Osama and practically left Afghanistan, which is sliding into ruin, and said last week Osama is not a "top priority."

 

You are a partisan idiot.

[Squeegiebo]

Superballa: You must realize in the world of the warped liberal mind, the USA is ALWAYS wrong. We must always apologize because our very existence is an afront to all those poor people we oppress. And be sure that we are constantly oppressing poor innocent people somewhere. You will never find anything but condemnation of the USA by the far left. This country is ananthema to all that leftist believe and stand for. We are always wrong. We are always to blame. We are evil. That is the liberal viewpoint and it hasnt changed in the last 50 years and probably never will. So, when muzzi's blow up buildings; the evil USA is to blame because we oppressed them. When Saddam Huessin violates the terms of his surrender; the USA is to blame for taking that murderous dictator down. When Pakistan helps harbor Osama Bin Laden in remote regions of their country; the evil USA is to blame for not locating him. We are always the culprit and should always be made to apologize. That is how completely f*cked up the American left is today.

 

 

 

You are a partisan idiot.

 

That's an execellent set of posts there. I guess all those people saying you're the funniest m-f-er alive may be right.