BeeR Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 PS damn you DMD and that fLucking land mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 F the country. The party must be protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 McCain-Feingold (campaign finance reform) screwed the Republican's typical way of winning elections and they aren't happy with him because of it. Throw in the Kennedy-McCain "amnesty" bill (that failed) and you've got some very upset right wingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Why? The conservative base is gun shy. They gave their support to in 2000 and 2004 to big government Chimpy McDrunkmonkey. The base wants someone to represent conservative values. That isn't McCain. Problem number one. Although McCain is a genuine war hero, he went from a respected Bush critic to towing the party line. Therein, lies the problem...It's hard for anyone, let alone a conservative, to support a guy who is blueprinting his presidency after the worst administration of all time. Problem number two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirehairman Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Does it really matter in the primaries? No true conservative is going to vote for Clinton or Obama over McCain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 (edited) i think the real problem is that McCain is not a toe tapping homo like the hard core republicans.... hence there reluctance to vote for him Edited February 12, 2008 by Yukon Cornelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I wish Jeb would've ran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driveby Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 What a bunch of slows. The liberals :heart: McCain. Why? Insert answer to that question here___________________ and your question is answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 mccain was the most conservative candidate in the field when it came to fiscal restraint and refusal to vote for tax increases. conservatives who care primarily about government spending and foreign policy like mccain just fine. conservatives who care about bashing gays and teaching creationism in schools and such don't like him because he has called them out in the past. the talk radio windbags, and in turn their more brainless listeners don't like him -- at least in part, i am convinced -- because it is better for business if a democrat is in the white house than a pragmatic republican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 mccain was the most conservative candidate in the field when it came to fiscal restraint and refusal to vote for tax increases. conservatives who care primarily about government spending and foreign policy like mccain just fine. conservatives who care about bashing gays and teaching creationism in schools and such don't like him because he has called them out in the past. the talk radio windbags, and in turn their more brainless listeners don't like him -- at least in part, i am convinced -- because it is better for business if a democrat is in the white house than a pragmatic republican. Didn't he vote against the Bush tax cuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 The New York Slimes and the Washington Compost both endorsed McCain. That is all the reason I really need not to like him. As far as being fiscally conservative, Romney was just as conservative. McCain in the Republican party's version of Lieberman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Didn't he vote against the Bush tax cuts? Yes, but he now says he would not vote to repeal them. I'm not sure I believe that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 McCain was one of two Republican senators to vote against a $1.35 trillion tax cut that Bush proposed in 2001. McCain also voted against similar plans in 2003, as well as a proposed repeal of the federal estate tax. McCain said they disproportionately benefited the wealthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Didn't he vote against the Bush tax cuts? yep. that would fall more under the "fiscal restraint" part of the sentence you bolded. the other part of the sentence you bolded, that he never voted for a tax increase in 20+ years, holds true. a no vote on a tax cut is not a yes vote on a tax hike, but you knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 The New York Slimes and the Washington Compost both endorsed McCain. so have tom coburn, sam brownback, phil gramm, lindsey graham, jack kemp, thad cochran, trent lott, steve forbes, tim pawlenty, rick perry, charlie crist, jeb bush...to name a few. i am confused, are those guys liberals too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Yes, but he now says he would not vote to repeal them. I'm not sure I believe that. he rightly views repealing them 8 years later as a tax increase. he has never voted for a tax increase in his entire career. what logical basis would you have for believing he will go back on his word and start now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 he rightly views repealing them 8 years later as a tax increase. he has never voted for a tax increase in his entire career. what logical basis would you have for believing he will go back on his word and start now? he is a politician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Is it fiscally responsible to continue the Bush tax cuts in a time of war when we are adding hundred of billions of dollars of debt annually to a 9 trillion dollar deficit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 mccain was the most conservative candidate in the field when it came to fiscal restraint and refusal to vote for tax increases. conservatives who care primarily about government spending and foreign policy like mccain just fine. conservatives who care about bashing gays and teaching creationism in schools and such don't like him because he has called them out in the past. the talk radio windbags, and in turn their more brainless listeners don't like him -- at least in part, i am convinced -- because it is better for business if a democrat is in the white house than a pragmatic republican. Good post. Didn't he vote against the Bush tax cuts? He voted against them because Bush/Cheney increased Federal spending at the same time. I don't agree with McCain on every position, but I find it hard to fault him for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Is it fiscally responsible to continue the Bush tax cuts in a time of war when we are adding hundred of billions of dollars of debt annually to a 9 trillion dollar deficit? well, yes since THAT is what would stimulate the economy and lead to higher revenue for the Gov't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 well, yes since THAT is what would stimulate the economy and lead to higher revenue for the Gov't. Cue the laffer laughable curve... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Is it fiscally responsible to continue the Bush tax cuts in a time of war when we are adding hundred of billions of dollars of debt annually to a 9 trillion dollar deficit? it is if we cut spending. would it be fiscally responsible to pay for all of the massive amounts of new chit on obama's platform when we have a 9 trillion dollar debt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 it is if we cut spending. would it be fiscally responsible to pay for all of the massive amounts of new chit on obama's platform when we have a 9 trillion dollar debt? It depends, is he going to borrow to pay for it, or raise taxes to pay for it? They all spend, left, right, and down the middle. Pay as you go or mortgage the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 It depends, is he going to borrow to pay for it, or raise taxes to pay for it? They all spend, left, right, and down the middle. Pay as you go or mortgage the future? How about cutting spending and get yer ass off the gubment teet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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