tonorator Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 ok, so if a dude has a big multi car lead and then there's a crash with the caution coming out, they all line back up right in a row behind the pace car and the front runner loses his big lead. is that right? so if it's down the the final laps and i've got a nice lead, heading home for the win, and some jackhole crashes, then my lead is wiped and i have to start again with someone right on my tail? how does this make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I'm not saying it makes sense, but I believe that's how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boat_hacked Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 And if the wreck is spectacular enough to have you circle the track under caution those final laps you win too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhippens Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 ok, so if a dude has a big multi car lead and then there's a crash with the caution coming out, they all line back up right in a row behind the pace car and the front runner loses his big lead. is that right? so if it's down the the final laps and i've got a nice lead, heading home for the win, and some jackhole crashes, then my lead is wiped and i have to start again with someone right on my tail? how does this make sense? yes, the field is re-grouped, set in order, the track is cleaned, and the green waves again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhippens Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 And if the wreck is spectacular enough to have you circle the track under caution those final laps you win too! they've started to try to avoid this over the past few seasons. generally, they are now extending the race to at least get 1 lap of green flag racing in rather than ending under caution. if another caution happens on that lap, then it's over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmanzzzz Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 i herd they were going to convert to hydrogen powered vehicles by 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 (edited) I'm not saying it makes sense, but I believe that's how it works. True -- just don't overthink it. Nascar isn't about making sense or earned victories. It's about selling alcohol (used to be alcohol and cigarettes). In that context, losing all competive advantage and having a farce of a finish is irrelevant. Edited March 9, 2008 by Donutrun Jellies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip_Side Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I've always wondered why they did this also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Better solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 Better solution? don't know. one thing i was trying to work out was how each car could have it's time kept separately, but that breaks down pretty quickly and would make things chaotic to follow. i believe if you do lap someone, this lead is maintained, but if you are say, a half track ahead, that lead would be eliminated ... makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 don't know. one thing i was trying to work out was how each car could have it's time kept separately, but that breaks down pretty quickly and would make things chaotic to follow. i believe if you do lap someone, this lead is maintained, but if you are say, a half track ahead, that lead would be eliminated ... makes no sense. Then you'll love this part. If there is a caution/yellow flag....out of all the cars that are a lap down. The one that is "in the lead" of those cars one lap down, gets that lap back and restarts at the end of the line of all the cars on the lead lap and is no longer one lap down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Better solution? I took teh tour of the Indy Motor Speedway a coule of years back, quite facinating. At this track, they have transponders burried in the track. For IRL reaces, when a yellow comes out, a snapshot of the field is taken and the distance between the cars is calculated. There are displays around the track that supposedly keeps the cars separated by the same distance as thery were when the yellow happened. Then of course there's the F1 way of doing things. They just wave a yellow flag in the corner where the wreck happened but everywhere else it's racing as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 Then you'll love this part. If there is a caution/yellow flag....out of all the cars that are a lap down. The one that is "in the lead" of those cars one lap down, gets that lap back and restarts at the end of the line of all the cars on the lead lap and is no longer one lap down... that is nuts. you know, you could actually win the race from a time standpoint, but lose overall. in the race over the weekend, one dude was leading for like 150 some laps of the race, but continually kept getting his leads erased by caution flags. then, he had a problem that was fixable, but it knocked him way back. overall, the guy was probably still ahead in time, but all that time was taken from him. so i guess it changes the entire strategy of the race. in some sense, since cautions are inevitable, you can still jockey for position and then actually hope for an incident to put you back in a position to make a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 that is nuts. you know, you could actually win the race from a time standpoint, but lose overall. in the race over the weekend, one dude was leading for like 150 some laps of the race, but continually kept getting his leads erased by caution flags. then, he had a problem that was fixable, but it knocked him way back. overall, the guy was probably still ahead in time, but all that time was taken from him. so i guess it changes the entire strategy of the race. in some sense, since cautions are inevitable, you can still jockey for position and then actually hope for an incident to put you back in a position to make a move. Nascar added this to stop people from racing back to the caution to try and get a lap back.It happened after Dale Jarrett wrecked,and cars were flying past him without slowing down to the line.When the yellow flag comes out,you're supposed to stop racing and the field is frozen...unless you're Mark Martin leading the Daytona 500 on the final lap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Then of course there's the F1 way of doing things. They just wave a yellow flag in the corner where the wreck happened but everywhere else it's racing as usual. It works for F1 drivers, but you're dealing with a different cat. Nascar drivers are toooo soft for this kind of racing. They wouldn't dare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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