Randall Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Pick 46.11: I.D.P Freeley in New Jersey selected Harvey, Derrick JAC DE He did it to me again. First Ryan Grant ad now Harvey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Darin hasn't made a pick for me since the end of the vet draft buddy, when I couldn't get to a computer. I'm doing just fine thanks. Look at the bright side. At least Whomper didn't call you ghey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 No worries bro, I like to try and fly under the radar HUH??? What makes you think I won't be back next year? I'm only going all in 'cause its the first year of a start up lol. Trust me, my strat will change next year and beyond. That would be a pretty low thing to do IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 HUH??? What makes you think I won't be back next year? I'm only going all in 'cause its the first year of a start up lol. Trust me, my strat will change next year and beyond. That would be a pretty low thing to do IMO. Good. I hope you do. And make sure you finish in last place so I get a high rookie pick. It's the least you can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 (edited) Value is a relative term and I think that 45% of your cap you spent on a DB (rookie or not) pretty much assures that the word VALUE should not be used. He paid $45 to acquire that pick 45% for a player at one of the deepest positions just doesn't scream value to me....and while he can "make it up" he won't ever truly make it up....just because RFAs will most likely be thin the first couple of years starting in yr 3 they will start to come on the market and then I think someone is going to be singing a different tune about VALUE for some reason rookie drafts make people lose their minds when it comes to trading cash, picks and players. All good points Keggerz. However, I still have $65 in my account. More than enough to safely bid on a RFA here and there. And to be honest, if I have to rely on the RFA market for my team to stay competitive, I'm in deep trouble. Knowing that I don't allows me some financial freedom. My strat is alittle different, I'll grant you that, but its one that works for me. HOWEVER, he who refuses to learn from his mistakes...well you know the rest lol. BTW: Thanks again for the recommendation. Great bunch of guys here and the smack talk is nice and thick...just the way I like it. Edited: I deleted some content that I deemed inappropriate. I certainly don't wanna turn this into a bragging post. Edited July 7, 2008 by tazinib1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Good. I hope you do. And make sure you finish in last place so I get a high rookie pick. It's the least you can do. Just to clear this up, my $75 buy in for 2009 should arrive no later than next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Good. I hope you do. And make sure you finish in last place so I get a high rookie pick. It's the least you can do. Looking at my roster, thats almost an impossibility lol. Sorry bout dat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF409ers Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 HUH??? What makes you think I won't be back next year? I'm only going all in 'cause its the first year of a start up lol. Trust me, my strat will change next year and beyond. That would be a pretty low thing to do IMO. I did not post anything saying you would not be back. I fully expect to you to defend your title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I did not post anything saying you would not be back. I fully expect to you to defend your title That's the spirit!!! lmao...yeah I mistakenly quoted your post instead of Randells. Sorry brotha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I did not post anything saying you would not be back. I fully expect to you to defend your title Isn't that title called the toilet bowl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 (edited) Round 3 Rookie Draft 46.01 721. Phoenix Force Johnson, Josh TBB QB ® Mon Jul 7 12:37:38 p.m. ET 2008 46.02 722. New York Chowder Manningham, Mario NYG WR ® Mon Jul 7 1:42:09 p.m. ET 2008 I think he can be #2 WR there. 46.03 723. Winnebago Derby Domes Slaton, Steve HOU RB ® Mon Jul 7 1:42:09 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 46.04 724. Sun City Little Blue Pills Royal, Eddie DEN WR ® Mon Jul 7 1:42:09 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 46.05 725. Masked Burglars of Uranus Bell, Beau CLE LB ® Mon Jul 7 1:42:09 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 46.06 726. New York Chowder Booty, John David MIN QB ® Mon Jul 7 1:43:33 p.m. ET 2008 46.07 727. NY/NJ MetroStars Jackson, DeSean PHI WR ® Mon Jul 7 3:37:59 p.m. ET 2008 46.08 728. Hangtown Heroes Charles, Jamaal KCC RB ® Mon Jul 7 3:37:59 p.m. ET 2008 46.09 729. Brooklyn Ball Busters Gholston, Vernon NYJ DE ® Mon Jul 7 4:22:08 p.m. ET 2008 46.10 730. Should've had the vasectomy sooner Hightower, Tim ARI RB ® Mon Jul 7 5:00:26 p.m. ET 2008 46.11 731. I.D.P Freeley in New Jersey Harvey, Derrick JAC DE ® Mon Jul 7 5:00:26 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 46.12 732. Lake Superior Ojibwa Simpson, Jerome CIN WR ® Mon Jul 7 5:13:23 p.m. ET 2008 46.13 733. Lake Superior Ojibwa Larsen, Spencer DEN LB ® The Denver MLB is very valuable. I don't believe Niko is the answer. Larsen may not be either but I have to roll the dice here. 46.14 734 Lake Superior Jermichael Finley TE GBP 46.15 735. Piney Woods Petro Pumpers Groves, Quentin JAC DE ® Mon Jul 7 8:41:50 p.m. ET 2008 46.16 736. Maryland Crabs Doucet, Early ARI WR ® Mon Jul 7 8:41:50 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 4th round 47.01 737. Phoenix Force Talib, Aqib TBB CB ® Mon Jul 7 8:57:09 p.m. ET 2008 47.02 738. Redcliff Maple Leafs Hester, Jacob SDC RB ® Mon Jul 7 9:07:15 p.m. ET 2008 47.03 739. San Diego Silver Surfers Wheeler, Philip IND LB ® Mon Jul 7 9:24:53 p.m. ET 2008 47.04 740. Sun City Little Blue Pills Hart, Mike IND RB ® Mon Jul 7 11:56:03 p.m. ET 2008 lets see just how "easy" the NFL really is... 47.05 741. Masked Burglars of Uranus Dorsey, Glenn KCC DT ® Mon Jul 7 11:56:03 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 47.06 742. New York Chowder Crable, Shawn NEP LB ® Mon Jul 7 11:56:03 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 47.07 743. NY/NJ MetroStars Caldwell, Andre CIN WR ® Tue Jul 8 12:51:40 p.m. ET 2008 47.08 744. Hangtown Heroes Hawkins, Lavelle TEN WR ® Tue Jul 8 12:51:40 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List ROSTERS Edited July 8, 2008 by Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Round 3 Rookie Draft46.01 721. Phoenix Force Johnson, Josh TBB QB ® Mon Jul 7 12:37:38 p.m. ET 2008 46.02 722. New York Chowder Manningham, Mario NYG WR ® Mon Jul 7 1:42:09 p.m. ET 2008 I think he can be #2 WR there. 46.03 723. Winnebago Derby Domes Slaton, Steve HOU RB ® Mon Jul 7 1:42:09 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 46.04 724. Sun City Little Blue Pills Royal, Eddie DEN WR ® Mon Jul 7 1:42:09 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 46.05 725. Masked Burglars of Uranus Bell, Beau CLE LB ® Mon Jul 7 1:42:09 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 46.06 726. New York Chowder Booty, John David MIN QB ® Mon Jul 7 1:43:33 p.m. ET 2008 46.07 727. NY/NJ MetroStars Jackson, DeSean PHI WR ® Mon Jul 7 3:37:59 p.m. ET 2008 46.08 728. Hangtown Heroes Charles, Jamaal KCC RB ® Mon Jul 7 3:37:59 p.m. ET 2008 46.09 729. Brooklyn Ball Busters Gholston, Vernon NYJ DE ® Mon Jul 7 4:22:08 p.m. ET 2008 46.10 730. Should've had the vasectomy sooner Hightower, Tim ARI RB ® Mon Jul 7 5:00:26 p.m. ET 2008 46.11 731. I.D.P Freeley in New Jersey Harvey, Derrick JAC DE ® Mon Jul 7 5:00:26 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 46.12 732. Lake Superior Ojibwa Simpson, Jerome CIN WR ® Mon Jul 7 5:13:23 p.m. ET 2008 46.13 733. Lake Superior Ojibwa Larsen, Spencer DEN LB ® The Denver MLB is very valuable. I don't believe Niko is the answer. Larsen may not be either but I have to roll the dice here. 46.14 734 Lake Superior Jermichael Finley TE GBP ROSTERS The Larsen pick, while maybe a touch early, I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'd like to touch Larsen early and often! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Look at the bright side. At least Whomper didn't call you ghey. I was waiting for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I was waiting for that You have been on a roll lately. I did notice however that highlighting that post offered me no comfort at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 The Larsen pick, while maybe a touch early, I like. I was trying to trade up for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I was trying to trade up for him Figured I needed to grab him because the Niko owner was about to pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 for some reason rookie drafts make people lose their minds when it comes to trading cash, picks and players. Some people simply view player value very differently than you do. It doesn't mean they've lost their minds. I'd rather load up on rookies in the start-up year of a dynasty or contract league than store cash available (obviously). There is a learning curve in the NFL, and aside from RB and sometimes LB, most are a year or longer for most players. That makes stashed rookies valuable assets for future years. A taxi squad loaded up with potential future impact players becomes more critical in the first 3 years than the FA pool, IMO. It allows young players to mature at their own pace without impacting a team's active roster requirements and becomes a private stockpile that a team can access as the players start living up to that potential. If an owner might have a pretty good eye for evaluating rookies, that private talent stash can pay off a lot more than any value that FA dollars have, without having to bid to acquire the players' services. And while future draft picks aren't on the roster yet and don't contribute to making a team better, the current crop of rookies is gaining actual experience while providing depth that doesn't affect the active roster. In a start-up draft, you can have the FA cash, and you can have the future picks. Give me the more upper round rookie picks to load up my practice squad with, thanks. If a couple of those guys break through this year, all the better. But in 2 to 3 years when the current crop of rookies start maturing and I start losing some of my marginal initial vet picks due to short contracts, those are exactly the guys that I want filling the roster spaces - at no cost to my team other than assigning contract years after having the opportunity to watch them mature for 2 to 3 years - to hopefully maintain a competitive team for the first few years of the league. After that, and again hopefully without having to spend significant FA dollars to maintain my team, I'll have my FA purse built up when the players who are larger impact players entire the available player pool. So spending $45 of FA money this year for a player who has the earmarks to be a stud at a position - like it looks like Flowers might have since he is superb at run support on the edge as well as being a solid cover corner - could be money very well spent for a player who could be a cornerstone D player for a team for 6 years or more, depending upon the contract assigned. The thing that surprises me a lot more than the $45 spent for the pick is that he went in the 2nd round, which is awfully high for a DB - but hey, player value is in the eye of the owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Pick 46.11:I.D.P Freeley in New Jersey selected Harvey, Derrick JAC DE He did it to me again. First Ryan Grant ad now Harvey. I can throw Harvey into a deal if you know what I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I can throw Harvey into a deal if you know what I mean I do. With Grant? Harvey and Grant would make a tempting duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I do. With Grant? Harvey and Grant would make a tempting duo. I am so attached to Grant I am considering him an appendage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I am so attached to Grant I am considering him an appendage Reminds of BM and me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Figured I needed to grab him because the Niko owner was about to pick. To be honest I didnt even have him or Adibi on my radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 To be honest I didnt even have him or Adibi on my radar. That's because you think Colvin is going to play WLB for the Texans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 To be honest I didnt even have him or Adibi on my radar. 4th round in the rook draft for me in ATAP...2nd round in AOTAOP? The price of gas isn't even increasing that fast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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