Obama Speech in Berlin

[TimC]

Hitler used to draw bigger crowds there.

[TheShiznit]

Hitler used to draw bigger crowds there.

[Clubfoothead]

So you're the reason the politic threads get locked??

 

You, through Boortz, want to claim that Europeans support Obama because Europenas want a weak America and that Obama makes America weak. You, through Boortz, want to claim some sort of survey that backs your assertions. As soon as someone calls you on the fact that the study at best cannot be found your response is that you either too lazy to go find the survey or that it does not exist. That doesn't strike you as bull$hit?

 

I'll debate politics with anyone, be wrong 82% of the time and admit it 1/2 the time, I even banned myself from thehuddle once. I may be the reason political threads are locked but you are the reason the SHOULD be locked.

[Atlanta Cracker]

That pretty much makes you a big mouth jackass then doesn't it?

 

 

As far as I can tell that comment doesn't qualify as "debate."

[TimC]

 

And had a better message.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AtomicCEO]

As far as I can tell that comment doesn't qualify as "debate."

 

I also get frustrated when people get their news from opinion pieces and don't put critical thought into figuring out if it is actually true or not.

 

But I'm not as much of a dick as Chavez.

 

In a perfect world, we'd get our news from multiple sources known for their lack of bias and make up our minds for ourselves rather than read blogs that tell us that what we already think is right.

[McBoog]

And had a better message.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What was interesting to me was when he talked of unity in fighting terrorism and no allowing it to defeat us, the crowd grew quiet and was very non-supportive, when he talked about how f'ed up we had been and the "mistakes" we have made the crowd really got into it and cheered loudly.

 

Just an observation

 

Once again, nobody to vote for. An unqualified, socialist, slik-talker and someone's grumpy grandpa who never escaped his middle-aged crisis!

 

For me it all boils down to who Johnny McC selects as his VP candidate. There is a pretty good chance he'll end up being pres by default If I don't like him, back to the Constitution Party and a vote for their guy!

[TheShiznit]

What was interesting to me was when he talked of unity in fighting terrorism and no allowing it to defeat us, the crowd grew quiet and was very non-supportive, when he talked about how f'ed up we had been and the "mistakes" we have made the crowd really got into it and cheered loudly.

 

Just an observation

 

Once again, nobody to vote for. An unqualified, socialist, slik-talker and someone's grumpy grandpa who never escaped his middle-aged crisis!

 

For me it all boils down to who Johnny McC selects as his VP candidate. There is a pretty good chance he'll end up being pres by default If I don't like him, back to the Constitution Party and a vote for their guy!

 

have you seen how old McCain's momis....no chance that guy dies in office.

 

I watched the whole speech and there was noted applause about working together....not one nation can solve the problem which is terrorism....did you have your earplugs in....or watching Fox News...which I noticed played games with the audio to portray just what you are posting. I watched and listened to the speech twice....both times thought it was excellent.

 

Europeans are tired of being shunned and told what to do....and when we ask for their help...we only want their help if they have the same idea as we have....that is not an equal player...but a bully. If you cannot understand this...then I guess you will constantly be disappointed. Reagan understood this.....even Bush 41 understood this....but when it is Obama....he is a slick talker. Just because you are incapable of his oratory does not make him slick...it makes him better than you.

Edited July 25, 2008 by TheShiznit

[SEC=UGA]

have you seen how old McCain's momis....no chance that guy dies in office.

 

I watched the whole speech and there was noted applause about working together....not one nation can solve the problem which is terrorism....did you have your earplugs in....or watching Fox News...which I noticed played games with the audio to portray just what you are posting. I watched and listened to the speech twice....both times thought it was excellent.

 

Europeans are tired of being shunned and told what to do....and when we ask for their help...we only want their help if they have the same idea as we have....that is not an equal player...but a bully. If you cannot understand this...then I guess you will constantly be disappointed. Reagan understood this.....even Bush 41 understood this....but when it is Obama....he is a slick talker. Just because you are incapable of his oratory does not make him slick...it makes him better than you.

 

Ah, BS, it is all luck... He's not any better than me.

[TheShiznit]

Ah, BS, it is all luck... He's not any better than me.

 

Actual speaking ability does not involve luck....things like circumstance and seating arrangements leading to lucrative long term business deals...that involves luck...and also discussed in another thread as you pointed out so eloquently.

[TimC]

[x] Ron Paul

 

Please. At least if we're gonna vote in a crazy loon, let him be a fiscally conservative crazy loon.

[TheShiznit]

[x] Ron Paul

 

Please. At least if we're gonna vote in a crazy loon, let him be a fiscally conservative crazy loon.

 

+1

[McBoog]

have you seen how old McCain's momis....no chance that guy dies in office.

 

I watched the whole speech and there was noted applause about working together....not one nation can solve the problem which is terrorism....did you have your earplugs in....or watching Fox News...which I noticed played games with the audio to portray just what you are posting. I watched and listened to the speech twice....both times thought it was excellent.

 

Europeans are tired of being shunned and told what to do....and when we ask for their help...we only want their help if they have the same idea as we have....that is not an equal player...but a bully. If you cannot understand this...then I guess you will constantly be disappointed. Reagan understood this.....even Bush 41 understood this....but when it is Obama....he is a slick talker. Just because you are incapable of his oratory does not make him slick...it makes him better than you.

 

I found it personnally offensive that he felt obligated to appoligize for me! As for the rest of your post If he is better than me, he is most definately better than you! Why is EVERYTHING a conspiracy if it does not support your opinion? (i.e. playing games with the audio... BTW I don't watch FOX or any other news regularly, too busy reading bedtime stories and getting in some Discovery or History channel is I have a chance).

 

And.. I guess that all the Euros are not as excited about him as we are forced to believe.

 

 

He ventured forth to bring light to the world

 

The anointed one's pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in action - and a blessing to all his faithful followers

 

Gerard Baker

 

And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.

 

The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd Josh Gordon and a little blow.

 

When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders. And the Elders were astonished at what they heard and said among themselves: “Verily, who is this Child that he opens our hearts and minds to the audacity of hope?”

 

In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites.

 

He travelled fleet of foot and light of camel, with a small retinue that consisted only of his loyal disciples from the tribe of the Media. He ventured first to the land of the Hindu Kush, where the

 

Taleban had harboured the viper of al-Qaeda in their bosom, raining terror on all the world.

 

And the Child spake and the tribes of Nato immediately loosed the Caveats that had previously bound them. And in the great battle that ensued the forces of the light were triumphant. For as long as the Child stood with his arms raised aloft, the enemy suffered great blows and the threat of terror was no more.

 

From there he went forth to Mesopotamia where he was received by the great ruler al-Maliki, and al-Maliki spake unto him and blessed his Sixteen Month Troop Withdrawal Plan even as the imperial warrior Petraeus tried to destroy it.

 

And lo, in Mesopotamia, a miracle occurred. Even though the Great Surge of Armour that the evil Bush had ordered had been a terrible mistake, a waste of vital military resources and doomed to end in disaster, the Child's very presence suddenly brought forth a great victory for the forces of the light.

 

And the Persians, who saw all this and were greatly fearful, longed to speak with the Child and saw that the Child was the bringer of peace. At the mention of his name they quickly laid aside their intrigues and beat their uranium swords into civil nuclear energy ploughshares.

 

From there the Child went up to the city of Jerusalem, and entered through the gate seated on an ass. The crowds of network anchors who had followed him from afar cheered “Hosanna” and waved great palm fronds and strewed them at his feet.

 

In Jerusalem and in surrounding Palestine, the Child spake to the Hebrews and the Arabs, as the Scripture had foretold. And in an instant, the lion lay down with the lamb, and the Israelites and Ishmaelites ended their long enmity and lived for ever after in peace.

 

As word spread throughout the land about the Child's wondrous works, peoples from all over flocked to hear him; Hittites and Abbasids; Obamacons and McCainiacs; Cameroonians and Blairites.

 

And they told of strange and wondrous things that greeted the news of the Child's journey. Around the world, global temperatures began to decline, and the ocean levels fell and the great warming was over.

 

The Great Prophet Algore of Nobel and Oscar, who many had believed was the anointed one, smiled and told his followers that the Child was the one generations had been waiting for.

 

And there were other wonderful signs. In the city of the Street at the Wall, spreads on interbank interest rates dropped like manna from Heaven and rates on credit default swaps fell to the ground as dead birds from the almond tree, and the people who had lived in foreclosure were able to borrow again.

 

Black gold gushed from the ground at prices well below $140 per barrel. In hospitals across the land the sick were cured even though they were uninsured. And all because the Child had pronounced it.

 

And this is the testimony of one who speaks the truth and bears witness to the truth so that you might believe. And he knows it is the truth for he saw it all on CNN and the BBC and in the pages of The New York Times.

 

Then the Child ventured forth from Israel and Palestine and stepped onto the shores of the Old Continent. In the land of Queen Angela of Merkel, vast multitudes gathered to hear his voice, and he preached to them at length.

 

But when he had finished speaking his disciples told him the crowd was hungry, for they had had nothing to eat all the hours they had waited for him.

 

And so the Child told his disciples to fetch some food but all they had was five loaves and a couple of frankfurters. So he took the bread and the frankfurters and blessed them and told his disciples to feed the multitudes. And when all had eaten their fill, the scraps filled twelve baskets.

 

Thence he travelled west to Mount Sarkozy. Even the beauteous Princess Carla of the tribe of the Bruni was struck by awe and she was great in love with the Child, but he was tempted not.

 

On the Seventh Day he walked across the Channel of the Angles to the ancient land of the hooligans. There he was welcomed with open arms by the once great prophet Blair and his successor, Gordon the Leper, and his successor, David the Golden One.

 

And suddenly, with the men appeared the archangel Gabriel and the whole host of the heavenly choir, ranks of cherubim and seraphim, all praising God and singing: “Yes, We Can.”

[westvirginia]

Actual speaking ability does not involve luck....things like circumstance and seating arrangements leading to lucrative long term business deals...that involves luck...and also discussed in another thread as you pointed out so eloquently.

 

 

But wasn't he just lucky he got put into a situation where he could polish his vocabulary and be taught to speak so eloquently?

[wirehairman]

But wasn't he just lucky he got put into a situation where he could polish his vocabulary and be taught to speak so eloquently?

 

No, he was d*mned lucky to hire such a great staff of speech writers. His prepared speeches are off the chart. At the same time, Obama sounds like a 6th grader to me when he makes unprepared comments and includes the phrase "you know" at least once if not 2 or 3 times in every sentence. Guess what, I don't know . . .

[TheShiznit]

But wasn't he just lucky he got put into a situation where he could polish his vocabulary and be taught to speak so eloquently?

 

Actually...yes he was....but his ability he learned. He was lucky...if you believe his biography. Why can't people not vote for him based on policies...like me...I won't vote for Obama because I disagree with him...and I don't see a darn thing wrong with his speech. And yes, Fox adjusted the audio...cause it sounded different than MSNBC...or they adjusted it...but I doubt it.

[TheShiznit]

I found it personnally offensive that he felt obligated to appoligize for me! As for the rest of your post If he is better than me, he is most definately better than you! Why is EVERYTHING a conspiracy if it does not support your opinion? (i.e. playing games with the audio... BTW I don't watch FOX or any other news regularly, too busy reading bedtime stories and getting in some Discovery or History channel is I have a chance).

 

And.. I guess that all the Euros are not as excited about him as we are forced to believe.

 

 

I never meant to imply he was better than you at everything...just speaking...LOL. Sorry if that is the implication you got...and I am most assured he is WAY WAY better than I. I have the tele on at work...so I caught it live and flipped to see the crawls as it amuses me what passes for summations these days.

[dmarc117]

Actually...yes he was....but his ability he learned. He was lucky...if you believe his biography. Why can't people not vote for him based on policies...like me...I won't vote for Obama because I disagree with him...and I don't see a darn thing wrong with his speech. And yes, Fox adjusted the audio...cause it sounded different than MSNBC...or they adjusted it...but I doubt it.

 

 

so fox has a motive, but msnbc doesnt.

[TheShiznit]

so fox has a motive, but msnbc doesnt.

 

one is more prolific of a purveyor of such "niceties" that I would put money on Fox doing it than any other network. Obama's baby mama....terrorist fist jab....I could go on...but why?

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

I found it personnally offensive that he felt obligated to appoligize for me! As for the rest of your post If he is better than me, he is most definately better than you! Why is EVERYTHING a conspiracy if it does not support your opinion? (i.e. playing games with the audio... BTW I don't watch FOX or any other news regularly, too busy reading bedtime stories and getting in some Discovery or History channel is I have a chance).

 

And.. I guess that all the Euros are not as excited about him as we are forced to believe.

 

 

He ventured forth to bring light to the world

 

The anointed one's pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in action - and a blessing to all his faithful followers

 

Gerard Baker

 

And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.

 

The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd Josh Gordon and a little blow.

 

When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders. And the Elders were astonished at what they heard and said among themselves: “Verily, who is this Child that he opens our hearts and minds to the audacity of hope?”

 

In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites.

 

He travelled fleet of foot and light of camel, with a small retinue that consisted only of his loyal disciples from the tribe of the Media. He ventured first to the land of the Hindu Kush, where the

 

Taleban had harboured the viper of al-Qaeda in their bosom, raining terror on all the world.

 

And the Child spake and the tribes of Nato immediately loosed the Caveats that had previously bound them. And in the great battle that ensued the forces of the light were triumphant. For as long as the Child stood with his arms raised aloft, the enemy suffered great blows and the threat of terror was no more.

 

From there he went forth to Mesopotamia where he was received by the great ruler al-Maliki, and al-Maliki spake unto him and blessed his Sixteen Month Troop Withdrawal Plan even as the imperial warrior Petraeus tried to destroy it.

 

And lo, in Mesopotamia, a miracle occurred. Even though the Great Surge of Armour that the evil Bush had ordered had been a terrible mistake, a waste of vital military resources and doomed to end in disaster, the Child's very presence suddenly brought forth a great victory for the forces of the light.

 

And the Persians, who saw all this and were greatly fearful, longed to speak with the Child and saw that the Child was the bringer of peace. At the mention of his name they quickly laid aside their intrigues and beat their uranium swords into civil nuclear energy ploughshares.

 

From there the Child went up to the city of Jerusalem, and entered through the gate seated on an ass. The crowds of network anchors who had followed him from afar cheered “Hosanna” and waved great palm fronds and strewed them at his feet.

 

In Jerusalem and in surrounding Palestine, the Child spake to the Hebrews and the Arabs, as the Scripture had foretold. And in an instant, the lion lay down with the lamb, and the Israelites and Ishmaelites ended their long enmity and lived for ever after in peace.

 

As word spread throughout the land about the Child's wondrous works, peoples from all over flocked to hear him; Hittites and Abbasids; Obamacons and McCainiacs; Cameroonians and Blairites.

 

And they told of strange and wondrous things that greeted the news of the Child's journey. Around the world, global temperatures began to decline, and the ocean levels fell and the great warming was over.

 

The Great Prophet Algore of Nobel and Oscar, who many had believed was the anointed one, smiled and told his followers that the Child was the one generations had been waiting for.

 

And there were other wonderful signs. In the city of the Street at the Wall, spreads on interbank interest rates dropped like manna from Heaven and rates on credit default swaps fell to the ground as dead birds from the almond tree, and the people who had lived in foreclosure were able to borrow again.

 

Black gold gushed from the ground at prices well below $140 per barrel. In hospitals across the land the sick were cured even though they were uninsured. And all because the Child had pronounced it.

 

And this is the testimony of one who speaks the truth and bears witness to the truth so that you might believe. And he knows it is the truth for he saw it all on CNN and the BBC and in the pages of The New York Times.

 

Then the Child ventured forth from Israel and Palestine and stepped onto the shores of the Old Continent. In the land of Queen Angela of Merkel, vast multitudes gathered to hear his voice, and he preached to them at length.

 

But when he had finished speaking his disciples told him the crowd was hungry, for they had had nothing to eat all the hours they had waited for him.

 

And so the Child told his disciples to fetch some food but all they had was five loaves and a couple of frankfurters. So he took the bread and the frankfurters and blessed them and told his disciples to feed the multitudes. And when all had eaten their fill, the scraps filled twelve baskets.

 

Thence he travelled west to Mount Sarkozy. Even the beauteous Princess Carla of the tribe of the Bruni was struck by awe and she was great in love with the Child, but he was tempted not.

 

On the Seventh Day he walked across the Channel of the Angles to the ancient land of the hooligans. There he was welcomed with open arms by the once great prophet Blair and his successor, Gordon the Leper, and his successor, David the Golden One.

 

And suddenly, with the men appeared the archangel Gabriel and the whole host of the heavenly choir, ranks of cherubim and seraphim, all praising God and singing: “Yes, We Can.”

 

Ok, so that was pretty good.

Edited July 25, 2008 by CaP'N GRuNGe

[westvirginia]

Actually...yes he was....but his ability he learned. He was lucky...if you believe his biography. Why can't people not vote for him based on policies...like me...I won't vote for Obama because I disagree with him...and I don't see a darn thing wrong with his speech. And yes, Fox adjusted the audio...cause it sounded different than MSNBC...or they adjusted it...but I doubt it.

 

 

I didn't listen to his speech. Didn't read it. I don't have the faintest interest in either the Obamamessia or McSame's political mental masturbations. Since Barr is running libertarian, I won't vote for them either this year. In fact, I'm toying with the idea of simply refusing to cooperate with the whole process thus removing my stamp of legitimacy from it. Nothing changes when we vote our choice of either the turd sandwich or the Megan Foxbag.

 

I believe government should mostly be based on the philosiphy of "Harm none, do as ye will". I want the gov't to leave me the heck alone unless I'm infringing on anothers rights and I don't see that its EVER right to abridge one persons rights to attend to another's needs.

 

You sure assume a lot about folks. I'm just poking fun at your "luck" argument. Since you can't defend it, you have backhandedly called me either ignorant or stupid, intimated that I will wallow wherever I am currently, and the above is some veiled intimation that I'm either racist or ???

 

You sir, come across as a condescending sanctimonious and self-righteous pickle-cavity. Are you a skins alias?

[moneymakers]

I found it personnally offensive that he felt obligated to appoligize for me! As for the rest of your post If he is better than me, he is most definately better than you! Why is EVERYTHING a conspiracy if it does not support your opinion? (i.e. playing games with the audio... BTW I don't watch FOX or any other news regularly, too busy reading bedtime stories and getting in some Discovery or History channel is I have a chance).

 

And.. I guess that all the Euros are not as excited about him as we are forced to believe.

 

 

He ventured forth to bring light to the world

 

The anointed one's pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in action - and a blessing to all his faithful followers

 

Gerard Baker

 

And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.

 

The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd Josh Gordon and a little blow.

 

When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders. And the Elders were astonished at what they heard and said among themselves: “Verily, who is this Child that he opens our hearts and minds to the audacity of hope?”

 

In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites.

 

He travelled fleet of foot and light of camel, with a small retinue that consisted only of his loyal disciples from the tribe of the Media. He ventured first to the land of the Hindu Kush, where the

 

Taleban had harboured the viper of al-Qaeda in their bosom, raining terror on all the world.

 

And the Child spake and the tribes of Nato immediately loosed the Caveats that had previously bound them. And in the great battle that ensued the forces of the light were triumphant. For as long as the Child stood with his arms raised aloft, the enemy suffered great blows and the threat of terror was no more.

 

From there he went forth to Mesopotamia where he was received by the great ruler al-Maliki, and al-Maliki spake unto him and blessed his Sixteen Month Troop Withdrawal Plan even as the imperial warrior Petraeus tried to destroy it.

 

And lo, in Mesopotamia, a miracle occurred. Even though the Great Surge of Armour that the evil Bush had ordered had been a terrible mistake, a waste of vital military resources and doomed to end in disaster, the Child's very presence suddenly brought forth a great victory for the forces of the light.

 

And the Persians, who saw all this and were greatly fearful, longed to speak with the Child and saw that the Child was the bringer of peace. At the mention of his name they quickly laid aside their intrigues and beat their uranium swords into civil nuclear energy ploughshares.

 

From there the Child went up to the city of Jerusalem, and entered through the gate seated on an ass. The crowds of network anchors who had followed him from afar cheered “Hosanna” and waved great palm fronds and strewed them at his feet.

 

In Jerusalem and in surrounding Palestine, the Child spake to the Hebrews and the Arabs, as the Scripture had foretold. And in an instant, the lion lay down with the lamb, and the Israelites and Ishmaelites ended their long enmity and lived for ever after in peace.

 

As word spread throughout the land about the Child's wondrous works, peoples from all over flocked to hear him; Hittites and Abbasids; Obamacons and McCainiacs; Cameroonians and Blairites.

 

And they told of strange and wondrous things that greeted the news of the Child's journey. Around the world, global temperatures began to decline, and the ocean levels fell and the great warming was over.

 

The Great Prophet Algore of Nobel and Oscar, who many had believed was the anointed one, smiled and told his followers that the Child was the one generations had been waiting for.

 

And there were other wonderful signs. In the city of the Street at the Wall, spreads on interbank interest rates dropped like manna from Heaven and rates on credit default swaps fell to the ground as dead birds from the almond tree, and the people who had lived in foreclosure were able to borrow again.

 

Black gold gushed from the ground at prices well below $140 per barrel. In hospitals across the land the sick were cured even though they were uninsured. And all because the Child had pronounced it.

 

And this is the testimony of one who speaks the truth and bears witness to the truth so that you might believe. And he knows it is the truth for he saw it all on CNN and the BBC and in the pages of The New York Times.

 

Then the Child ventured forth from Israel and Palestine and stepped onto the shores of the Old Continent. In the land of Queen Angela of Merkel, vast multitudes gathered to hear his voice, and he preached to them at length.

 

But when he had finished speaking his disciples told him the crowd was hungry, for they had had nothing to eat all the hours they had waited for him.

 

And so the Child told his disciples to fetch some food but all they had was five loaves and a couple of frankfurters. So he took the bread and the frankfurters and blessed them and told his disciples to feed the multitudes. And when all had eaten their fill, the scraps filled twelve baskets.

 

Thence he travelled west to Mount Sarkozy. Even the beauteous Princess Carla of the tribe of the Bruni was struck by awe and she was great in love with the Child, but he was tempted not.

 

On the Seventh Day he walked across the Channel of the Angles to the ancient land of the hooligans. There he was welcomed with open arms by the once great prophet Blair and his successor, Gordon the Leper, and his successor, David the Golden One.

 

And suddenly, with the men appeared the archangel Gabriel and the whole host of the heavenly choir, ranks of cherubim and seraphim, all praising God and singing: “Yes, We Can.”

 

 

 

+1

 

Will we see the abomination of desolation?

 

Naw

Obama slick but not that slicky. Too obvious

[TheShiznit]

I didn't listen to his speech. Didn't read it. I don't have the faintest interest in either the Obamamessia or McSame's political mental masturbations. Since Barr is running libertarian, I won't vote for them either this year. In fact, I'm toying with the idea of simply refusing to cooperate with the whole process thus removing my stamp of legitimacy from it. Nothing changes when we vote our choice of either the turd sandwich or the Megan Foxbag.

 

I believe government should mostly be based on the philosiphy of "Harm none, do as ye will". I want the gov't to leave me the heck alone unless I'm infringing on anothers rights and I don't see that its EVER right to abridge one persons rights to attend to another's needs.

 

You sure assume a lot about folks. I'm just poking fun at your "luck" argument. Since you can't defend it, you have backhandedly called me either ignorant or stupid, intimated that I will wallow wherever I am currently, and the above is some veiled intimation that I'm either racist or ???

 

You sir, come across as a condescending sanctimonious and self-righteous pickle-cavity. Are you a skins alias?

 

Elevate your standards and then maybe I won't.

 

You see...it is the stupid double standard that I hate. I like you position on governance...I share mostly the same views....however...here is what makes me upset...and it was aimed at McBoog not you. When liberals cited character reasons or idiocyncracies(sp) they hated in bush.....they had BDS...but it is perfectly ok...for these same people....to choose to not like Obama for virtually the same reasons. Realize this....all politicians are whores...all of them....they live off the public nickel. This was not supposed to be a career move...but it has become that. I don't like Obama because he is gonna shift spending us to death on Iraq to spending us to death on domestic...and then taxing us to death....when we shouldn't have to be taxed. I believe if you hold a belief so close you should be able to argue both sides of the argument....so I try to do so when appropo. How you take me is your fault...not mine. I mean no ill will towards people...I just speak my mind...if you read my posts like that...you should not find ill will where there isn't any. When you start off a post with fecal blemish...I will respond in kind....I don't see how this is unreasonable...maybe I have an expanded vocabulary and type how I speak...I have no idea...whatever it is...it may be your problem...not mine.

[Ursa Majoris]

Is there something inherently bad about an American president being warmly greeted by the citizens of the world's largest trading bloc? Wouldn't it be handy to have those folks think we're kinda cool and actually listen to what we have to say instead of assuming our president is an inarticulate stone deaf halfwit?

[detlef]

Is there something inherently bad about an American president being warmly greeted by the citizens of the world's largest trading bloc? Wouldn't it be handy to have those folks think we're kinda cool and actually listen to what we have to say instead of assuming our president is an inarticulate stone deaf halfwit?

Yer either with us or against us.